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Post by Cowdogz on Feb 24, 2013 21:23:17 GMT -5
My guess: Your corals are engaging in chemical warfare. You've got a lot of different species in a fairly small space. Step up your water changes. Skim aggressively, and start using carbon.
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Post by gotareef on Feb 24, 2013 22:15:18 GMT -5
in my tank all I dose is tropic marin bio-calcium because I have allot of stony corals some epsome salt to bump up magnesium and every once in a wile a little amquel because I dont do frequent waterchanges.
the only test kits I own are calcium, magnesium, and alkalinity. and of course a refractometer
every tank is different, and require different care. you need to do as much reading as you can and find what works best for you
is your salinity normal?
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 25, 2013 6:48:30 GMT -5
My salinity is normal. What's a refractometer? I plan to get the tests ASAP. Its just sad to see, they're sooo pretty and now they just look like they're falling apart :-(
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Post by gotareef on Feb 25, 2013 8:15:39 GMT -5
refractometer tells you how much salt is in the water
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Post by Cowdogz on Feb 25, 2013 8:40:44 GMT -5
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 25, 2013 8:42:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about chemical warfare between corals just yet. That's only just a few species of coral. My guess is one or multiple important water parameters is way off or something. First thing is first, buy a refractometer and some good quality test kits so you can find out what the problem is before you get caught in a wild goose chase. Also depending on the types of invertebrates and coral you plan to keep, having nitrates test out to 0ppm can be detrimental to coral and invert growth. SPS definitely like having super clean water but soft corals, none photosynthetic corals, LPS corals and many filter feeding inverts tend to benefit more from having slightly dirty water. Ive had my nitrates as high as 50ppm without any issues other than film algae.
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Post by Cowdogz on Feb 25, 2013 8:46:36 GMT -5
You're going to make a lot of expensive beginner's mistakes. It's the nature of the beast. Spend some time reading over here: www.wetwebmedia.com/It's Bob Fenner's site. I haven't missed the dailies in maybe 6 years. |
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 25, 2013 11:09:22 GMT -5
OK, I do have a refractometer but I've always called it a saltinity gauge. LOL would anyone want these to try to revamp them? They're surely gonna die in my tank right now. I did test everything and the only issue seems to be the nitrates. If someone could house them for a while or trade me for something a little more beginner style that would be awesome. I just don't know how to get them down fast enough cause the heads on these are dropping like flies :-(
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 25, 2013 11:48:14 GMT -5
Multiple water changes, RO or RODI water for mixing salt, Lower the amount of food you feed or lower the amount of bio load you have. Use a good quality activated carbon or similar nitrate removing media. Make sure your skimmer is skimming properly. All things you can do to lower nitrates.
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 25, 2013 12:23:00 GMT -5
I do use rodi water. I have it all set up downstairs with a holding tank. I haven't tested the water there just to make sure there were no nitrates coming from that water. I'll have to check my schedule and see how thats doing. As far as the feeding, I know the last week i have been over feeding so I'll definitely cut back on that but as far as the buyer load I did have 12 fish but as of about a week and a half ago I took out four fish so I only have 8 fish right now. I also re homed the condylactis so I only have my bubble tip on my long tentacle left. I have to cleaner shrimp into emerald crabs and probably about 6 hermits and six snails. I figured when I got rid of the other fish that my nitrate problem with start going down. Could it be because I had to tear the whole take apart about a week and a half ago how to get those other four fresh out ? I drained the water first and I made sure to keep the live rock in water at all times but in order to get those four fish we had to take every single rock out of the tank and we had to drain most of the water. When we were done we put the rock back into the tank and as soon as we were done with 1 of the buckets we put more water in until we finally got all 3 buckets of rock back into the tank. We use the same water that was in the tank previous to us taking it down and the whole process took less than an hour what do you think that maybe that could have spiked my nitrates?
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 25, 2013 12:24:23 GMT -5
I meant I have tested in the holding tank from the Rodi system and there were no nitrates in the water
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 25, 2013 12:25:12 GMT -5
And schedule was supposed to be Skimmer LOL
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Post by jess on Feb 25, 2013 14:09:29 GMT -5
It may have kicked them up a bit if the water had a chance to cool down, there will be some die off from the rock either way once it's exposed to air. If you messed with your sandbed to much it releases stuff trapped in it to.
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Post by Cowdogz on Feb 25, 2013 15:59:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry about chemical warfare between corals just yet. That's only just a few species of coral. From other threads it appears that she has 3 different species of anemone, euphyllia, mushrooms, zoanthids, xenia, palys and more in what looks like a 55-gallon tank, all added within a couple of weeks of one another. It's a pretty potent mix. Treating the problem as if it were allelopathy (carbon, water changes, skimming) would also address the nitrates, but it may be that some of that stuff has to come out of there, at least for a while. |
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Post by scoobnoob on Feb 25, 2013 20:02:05 GMT -5
Get a polyfilter too
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