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Post by scoobnoob on Mar 11, 2018 20:37:44 GMT -5
After my great tank crash in October I waited 3 weeks and took back corals that were rescued by a CR. My levels were not ideal bit I thought were fine. My nitrates in particular were at 3. A few weeks in amd my coral looked amazing it was the brightest it had been in some time. Things were glowing. Weeks went by and they lost color. I reviewed my water test log and 2 things happened I had switched salts which I attributed all the changes too as a result my alk remained pretty much dead on. My phosphates were a little high but nitrates 0. I started investigating this and saw some pretty convincing videos and testimony of growth and color especially around 5. So I ordered some sodium Nitrate, it comes in tomorrow and I plan to gradually raise it 1 a week over the next 5 weeks. I will report changes good and or bad. I feel this may also explain why some zoas that do great in other tanks using the same salt mix and lighting just melt in my setups. Feel free to follow along.
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Post by spotfin on Mar 11, 2018 20:53:45 GMT -5
Interesting. Do you have any livestock in this tank?
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Post by fermentedhiker on Mar 11, 2018 21:16:32 GMT -5
I wonder what the difference between dosing Sodium Nitrate(basically fertilizer)to raise it when compared with something like intentionally overfeeding something at the base of the food chain like marine snow or phyto would be?
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Post by scoobnoob on Mar 12, 2018 4:36:01 GMT -5
Livestock is low since the crash only 4 fish in 155 total volume. Ive attempted over feeding and it only raised my phosphates. I have a huge skimmer for the system, a carbon reactor and approx a 30 gallon fuge with a kessil h360 ot grows chaeto extremely quickly. In also cycling the skimmer on and off too.
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Post by Vijay Glenburn on Mar 12, 2018 7:02:54 GMT -5
I’ve heard about this too and am interested in seeing your results. Is your Mg level good?
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Post by spotfin on Mar 12, 2018 9:34:47 GMT -5
I would add more fish😀
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Post by scoobnoob on Mar 12, 2018 19:44:10 GMT -5
I’ve heard about this too and am interested in seeing your results. Is your Mg level good? Mg is around 1320 to 1360. It used to always be low with RC but Live Aquaria salt seems more balanced. I got the Sodium Nitrate today I havnt mixed it yet likely tomorrow. I will do pics and post updates. |
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Post by gotareef on Mar 13, 2018 14:46:58 GMT -5
Just have a good nitrite test, my experience coral like nitrates but nitrate turns into nitrite nitrite is what crashes tanks
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Post by scoobnoob on Mar 13, 2018 21:19:22 GMT -5
Just have a good nitrite test, my experience coral like nitrates but nitrate turns into nitrite nitrite is what crashes tanks Ammonia N3 is converted into Nitrite NO2 into Nitrate NO3 |
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Post by scoobnoob on Mar 13, 2018 21:24:31 GMT -5
I did all the math using this calculator www.theplantedtank.co.uk/calculator.htm The calculator is for Potassium Nitrate, so I had to reduce the amount by 16%. I did 23 grams into a gallon which in roughly 100 gallons of water each ml will raise it .0125. I plan to does 4mls a day this should raise my nitrates .05 per day. I plan to test 24 hours to make sure the dose is dialed in. I also assume that dosing such a small amount I may still register 0 in which case I will increase the dose. I have redsea pro low range phosphate test kit to monitor. |
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Post by spotfin on Mar 14, 2018 7:36:08 GMT -5
I agree that your test kit probably won't register that amount. And is it a Nitrate or Phosphate test kit you have? Not familiar with the Red Sea low range test kits. Overall, hobbyist grade test kits are marginal at best.
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Post by spotfin on Mar 14, 2018 7:36:48 GMT -5
Just have a good nitrite test, my experience coral like nitrates but nitrate turns into nitrite nitrite is what crashes tanks Ammonia N3 is converted into Nitrite NO2 into Nitrate NO3 Then nitrate is further broken down into nitrogen and oxygen. |
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Post by Syntax on Mar 14, 2018 15:55:54 GMT -5
Ammonia N3 is converted into Nitrite NO2 into Nitrate NO3 Then nitrate is further broken down into nitrogen and oxygen. Only in anaerobic locations such as deep in live rock and/or deep sand bed I believe. |
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Post by spotfin on Mar 14, 2018 16:37:44 GMT -5
Then nitrate is further broken down into nitrogen and oxygen. Only in anaerobic locations such as deep in live rock and/or deep sand bed I believe. True. Or plants, or other organisms, take it up. |
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Post by fragit on Mar 14, 2018 16:39:30 GMT -5
I have been constantly dosing nitrates for well over 6 months just to have some nutrients in my tank. I use Spectraside Stump Remover it is potassium nitrate. I dose this 8 time daily and Seachem phosphate every other day in an effort to beat Dinoflagellates out of my system. I also used the planted tank site calculator for both it works great.
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