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Post by jstearn on Oct 31, 2014 21:09:15 GMT -5
I want to order a pair of the 120w or 165w leds. The first ones I got a year ago sucked. Dies someone have a link to a good one with lenses and full spectrum like the ones rob got back in april?
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Post by maineultraclassic on Oct 31, 2014 21:11:02 GMT -5
I just sold my unit I had for the past 6 months. It worked great, I had good growth with it. Ebay is loaded with them for around $100 each.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Oct 31, 2014 21:29:53 GMT -5
Check with jasonandsarah! I know he had two of the newer ones he was selling. No idea if he still has them or is still selling them. Worth asking though!
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Post by jstearn on Oct 31, 2014 22:19:50 GMT -5
What are the things I need to know about them. Like what leds should they have. Are ever grow ones any good?
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Post by gotareef on Nov 1, 2014 8:14:57 GMT -5
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Post by jasonandsarah on Nov 1, 2014 9:33:39 GMT -5
Why do these only have 2 fans? It's probably not a huge deal but I think the 3 fans is better. For the very low watts each fan takes having a third fan to keep things cool is good and keeps the leds cooler, more efficient and longer lasting. Especially with no heat sink. I also don't see the need for the 6 warm whites (3,500k) plus 2 reds? I always thought you didn't want much spectrum under 6,500k? It's mainly just for our eye and wasted light spectrum for the corals isn't it? Don't get me wrong I like a little red and green and think it's benifical in small amounts. You also have to be careful because a lot of Ebay sellers say their lights are Evergrow but they're not. I'd spend the couple extra dollars and get Reef Breeders. They're still pretty much Evergrow but they build the lights in house and select their own diodes. Full warranty through them and I heard their customer service is top notch. All that being said and I'd still say save up and get better leds. They're gonna last you forever and are absolutely worth the money. Sent from my SM-N910R4 using proboards
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Post by gotareef on Nov 1, 2014 10:00:32 GMT -5
they only have 2 fans because they are evergrow not gbgreensun... the only feature I like better on the greensun is it has on off switches with evergrow you have to use the dimmer knobs to turn them on/off
reefbreeder is evergrow they dont build their own light there. I sold him the luxmeter to test the lights par with different led layouts WE picked on lights evergrow sent him, I actually have a ton of parts for evergrow lights... with either gbgreensun or evergrow you can get a custom led layout, meaning any color led in any spot of the light. are all the colors on the fixture "needed" that is up to you, personally I dont like looking at a blue tank and the layout I use is comparable to mh in color and look. it is the basic layout the one that is designed to compare to mh.... if you have a tank dedicated to a certain type of coral sps/lps/softies you may want to change a few colors around to suit the needs of that specific type of coral, but for a mixed reef the basic layout is what I recommend... another light I like is evergrow's nova a4 or a6. if were going to use a programmable light it would be one of these...
evergrow and gbgreensun now have a warehouse in the u.s. so most are built here. (not at reefbreeders lol)
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Post by BriMc on Nov 1, 2014 11:41:40 GMT -5
"evergrow and gbgreensun now have a warehouse in the u.s. so most are built here" Absolutely a wrong statement, The fixtures are warehoused here not manufactured or assembeled here in the U.S. same as Jebao. Reefbreaders does not manufacture or assemble their fixtures here either, Reef breaders gets their fixtures compleatly assembled and then changes out the optos and led configurations to their customers requests. Reef breaders also does their own repairs at their warehouse.
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Post by gotareef on Nov 1, 2014 18:07:09 GMT -5
um ok lots of miss info from what I am told by evergrow the u.s. warehouse is separate from their company (just like walmart and walmart.com)
with evergrow, repairs are done by the distributors (the reason I have a pile of replacement led sitting here) so if you have an evergrow light I have permission to open the light and repair it. greensun is a little different, they say they will replace parts then charge 5x shipping. a little dishonest if you ask me. or they have you ship the light to their wharehouse to be repaired
when you order from the manufacturer you specify what optics you want (if any) and fill out a custom layout pattern for the led, you can also have the light and the packing labeled however you want... so if I want the light to have a "mainereefers" sticker on it they will put it on it and then my design on the box....
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Post by jasonandsarah on Nov 1, 2014 20:26:37 GMT -5
I stand kinda corrected..... Evergrow does build Reef breeders fixtures but Evergrow builds them to RB specifications. They choose the leds and bins they come from, Fans etc etc. Not all Evergrow leds are created equally imo. They make fixtures for MANY different companies and I'm almost positive not all those company's ask fort the same things. If company A only wants to pay 50$ per fixture and company B is willing to pay 60$ I'm pretty sure company B will get higher quality components. I know for a fact that Reef breeders picks their led bins and imo that definitely makes a difference. They also give you a 2 year full warranty and allow you to fix your own fixtures if you are capable. They seems you the parts free of charge. If you can't fix it your self then they pay shipping both ways to repair your light. Anyone that has watched leds over the past year and a half knows that everytime Reef breeders has changed their layout most have copied (cheaper led companies). My point is that Evergrow does make quality products for the person on a budget but they also will build that same light for a different company at cheaper standards. They build what the company wants and wants to pay. Not all companies they build for care that much about what goes in your fixture.
Sent from my SM-N910R4 using proboards
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Post by gotareef on Nov 2, 2014 8:49:08 GMT -5
since when do epistar and bridglux have bins for their led? reefbreeders dosnt pick anything and last I herd they pay about $45 per light you can get evergrow led with cree led that have bins but it is a 90w fixture and cost about $200 2 year warranty is evergrow warranty if you contact them with warranty issues they send you the paper to tell you how to fix it. you just ask permission to open it, or they send you to me or another distributor the lights I got were identical to reefbreeders I asked for them that way lol but because im not buying 2000 fixtures a year it cost me double the price for the same led (the more u buy the cheaper it gets)
show me the bins on the led? you need to remember I helped design reefbreeder leds the reason I had to wait to sell them... (insider trading laws) this is why I had gbgreensun lights that were copys of the first evergrow lights (thats what I told them to put together...)
where did you guys get your info? lol my contact at evergrow is "ICE" you guys need to send her a message because obviously you guys need to hear it from someone else.... or if you want to contact gbgreensun my contact is ruby wu
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Post by BriMc on Nov 2, 2014 12:20:32 GMT -5
um ok lots of miss info from what I am told by evergrow the u.s. warehouse is separate from their company (just like walmart and walmart.com) with evergrow, repairs are done by the distributors (the reason I have a pile of replacement led sitting here) so if you have an evergrow light I have permission to open the light and repair it. greensun is a little different, they say they will replace parts then charge 5x shipping. a little dishonest if you ask me. or they have you ship the light to their wharehouse to be repaired when you order from the manufacturer you specify what optics you want (if any) and fill out a custom layout pattern for the led, you can also have the light and the packing labeled however you want... so if I want the light to have a "mainereefers" sticker on it they will put it on it and then my design on the box.... And you dispute what I said How? The units ARE NOT manufactured in the USA.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Nov 2, 2014 12:37:01 GMT -5
You can find Logan saying he uses binned bridgelux and cree leds on Rc. I guess you should know better then me if you was on the R&d for Reef Breeders. Not something I was aware of.
Out of curiosity why would you help Reef Breeders design their layout when you were selling gbgreensun and then your own Evergrow lights? Plus you say there's no difference in binned leds but imo they're definitely is. Knowing the actual spectrum coming out of your led is crucial imo. I've seen some of the bin sheets and the spectrum can very 30nm or more in the same color leds. So a 420nm led could actually be 450nm...... big difference!
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Post by BriMc on Nov 2, 2014 13:30:20 GMT -5
Jason you are absolutely correct on all counts. Gotareef without looking it up what exactly is a BIN? I know how proprietary this stuff is and he would not get any further then the sales staff and maybe to a tech person who tries to answer questions and that is about it. I know as I said many times I worked for a major player in Lighting world. What? you bought what 10 fixtures maybe 20? yeah that doesn't make you anything but a hobbyist trying to screw a company for a discount. I use to do this myself before I worked for Fins-N-Fur and then opened SAS.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Nov 2, 2014 14:46:04 GMT -5
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