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Post by jasonandsarah on Aug 13, 2014 12:46:06 GMT -5
jason I can get a sw pool filter for around $200 looks almost the same as what you posted... now the question is what do they use for "biomedia" I wonder if you could use bio pellets? If you even wanted to? Or if you could use it with bigger media like a calcium reactor? Just thoughts Idk? I guess a lot of large aquariums use big ones but these are huge tanks. I think if you can figure out the best media to use and make sure it's 100% free of copper & other toxic metals then why not? But I could be totally wrong it happens often:) |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Aug 13, 2014 12:47:48 GMT -5
Or the latest and greatest "All in one bio pellets"? They said to remove 15x more phosphates and 10x more nitrates then the original pellets.
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Aug 13, 2014 12:48:41 GMT -5
Post by BriMc on Aug 13, 2014 12:48:41 GMT -5
So let me ask you this real simple question seeing how you two seem to be pretty smart. What happens when the sand gets food in it and starts to decay?? Jason Yes they also used trickle or wet dry filters for over twenty years until it was discovered it was a nitrite and nitrate factory.
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Aug 13, 2014 12:51:05 GMT -5
Post by BriMc on Aug 13, 2014 12:51:05 GMT -5
Foggman is easy's a bare bottom tank ? just wondering.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Aug 13, 2014 13:05:28 GMT -5
If using a pre filter and bio media instead of sand I don't see clogging being a big issue?
I don't remember ever seeing a bare bottom tank at easy? But is the 300g fresh water? Because that's way different obviously.
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Aug 13, 2014 13:17:38 GMT -5
Post by BriMc on Aug 13, 2014 13:17:38 GMT -5
Don't take me as being snide but you are going to run 2400 GPH through bio media? or bio pellets? I wasn't worrying about clogging I was asking about flushing the filter.
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Aug 13, 2014 13:24:01 GMT -5
Post by BriMc on Aug 13, 2014 13:24:01 GMT -5
If using a pre filter and bio media instead of sand I don't see clogging being a big issue? I don't remember ever seeing a bare bottom tank at easy? But is the 300g fresh water? Because that's way different obviously. If I an not mistaken it is the arowana tank. |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Aug 13, 2014 13:28:32 GMT -5
Don't take me as being snide but you are going to run 2400 GPH through bio media? or bio pellets? I wasn't worrying about clogging I was asking about flushing the filter. I was throwing out ideas? Idk? Probably not. |
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Post by foggman on Aug 13, 2014 13:31:39 GMT -5
It is the fresh water system. Thoes filters have a back wash feature that runs the filter in reverse to remove the items caught by the filter. That is how you would export what is trapped
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Post by jasonandsarah on Aug 13, 2014 13:37:09 GMT -5
So gets what they say it does and how it functions. It's kinda neat I didn't know it captures all the organics and particle matter and back fluses it out a few set times a day.... more I read then more I think this could really work for a large frag farm or the like........ seavisions.com/bioseasinfo.htm |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Aug 13, 2014 13:38:18 GMT -5
It is the fresh water system. Thoes filters have a back wash feature that runs the filter in reverse to remove the items caught by the filter. That is how you would export what is trapped Lol I was still typing when you said exactly what I was going to say. |
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Aug 13, 2014 13:49:28 GMT -5
Post by BriMc on Aug 13, 2014 13:49:28 GMT -5
Hmmm it never wastes water back flushing so where does the junk go? It sits in the water somewhere in the system waiting for the operator to remove it. Now again because of smoking mirrors and not being able to show us what exactly gets backwashed the prefilter or the sand which get backwashed? Now again I know old school but when you have a semi or deep sand bed we are told for best results and to not disturb the biological filtration of the sand bed. Also when cleaning the sand bed only vacuum the very top. So if the sand is backwashed many times a day I guess that there is special super bacteria ( anaerobic ) that can withstand being disturbed all the time. Now I am no aquatic scientist but I can go on other sites and pull quite a few post where people did vacuum their sand beds and they recycled their aquarium. Now I know I am beating a dead horse here but you are reading an article produced by a company that wants you to buy something. " It's the latest greatest, look what it can do" And unfortunately there are many suckers out there who jump right in and buy.
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Aug 13, 2014 13:58:22 GMT -5
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Post by gotareef on Aug 13, 2014 13:58:22 GMT -5
So let me ask you this real simple question seeing how you two seem to be pretty smart. What happens when the sand gets food in it and starts to decay?? Jason Yes they also used trickle or wet dry filters for over twenty years until it was discovered it was a nitrite and nitrate factory. First off trickle filters are good filters. the problem as you stated they fill up with crud after time and create nitrate traps. With a sand filter you set it to backwash the media gets flushed of the organics so there is no build up. You then top off with new sw making life easier. |
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Aug 13, 2014 14:01:49 GMT -5
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Post by gotareef on Aug 13, 2014 14:01:49 GMT -5
I think you need to do some reading because you hove no clue how these filters work. When you backwash the water is drained out of the system
Like lance said it isnt a sandbed there will not be ologic spelling?) bacteria. Or a dead zone it will catch anything in the water then I can flush it out.
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Aug 13, 2014 14:02:03 GMT -5
Post by BriMc on Aug 13, 2014 14:02:03 GMT -5
Your kidding me, right? it is a glorified pool filter and a pool filter is not a bacteria filter it is a water polishing filter period! Maybe you should do a little more reading.  I am killing myself laughing. |
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