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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 6:54:11 GMT -5
So I woke up this morning to my single clownfish who survived the treck from the dorm room completely fine dead. And I can't seem to figure out why I can't keep a clownfish to save my life. My tank has claimed 3-4 of them now and it's really confusing since I've seen people's live in plastic buckets just fine.
My corals look excellent, in fact they're absolutely thriving. I noticed he was acting funny yesterday, so I turned off my nano's powerhead and everything seemed to love that.
I haven't added anything new to the tank, and it's been over a week since we've moved it. Also the fish are all from Easy Aquarium, so it's not some petco disease.
Any ideas?
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 7:14:00 GMT -5
What do you have for circulation besides the nano power head? You still had some flow in the tank right?
If your specifically losing clown fish only I'd consider oondinium (clown fish disease) what else do you have for fish?
Any pictures of the clown? What do you mean by acting funny?
Sorry for the bombardment of questions but it's hard to help diagnose something like this without lots of information?
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 7:16:58 GMT -5
I haven't added anything new to the tank, and it's been over a week since we've moved it. Also the fish are all from Easy Aquarium, so it's not some petco disease. Any ideas? Unfortunately it doesn't matter where you get your fish there's always a risk of fish diseases when buying fish. Obviously some worse then others. Witch is why quarantine is always the only way to keep diseases out of your display tank 100% of the time. Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards |
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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 7:25:14 GMT -5
I still had flow. I run a power filter so I get flow from that. He was just hanging out in one spot as opposed to swimming all around the tank. Which I attributed to maybe too much flow. Since he was hanging out away from the power head. I've only ever had clowns in my tank. And no I don't have any pictures of him other than when he was normal.
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 7:36:15 GMT -5
Did you notice any awkward spots? White or black?
If a fish can't handle flow in a nano then there's normally something wrong with the fish and it's weak. If you've only had clown fish then like I said before I'd suspect oondinium and you'll probably have to leave your tank fishless for 8 weeks I believe? You can't treat it since you have corals so you'll have to allow it to run it's life cycle and die off without a fish to host.
Even though it's called clown fish disease it's not limited to clowns so in order to make sure it's gone I believe your tank will have to have no fish at all.
I'll be interested to hear what others have to say but this would be my best guess without actually seeing the fish.
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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 7:39:31 GMT -5
No theres no awkward spots, That was my first guess, as a I have hammers and frogspawn in he tank. But nothing to be seen. This happened in about 2 days. I might end up just shutting my tank down, on a small budget when you've spent already over $100 on clowns, it might be time to let it go.
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 7:53:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't give up if I was you. If you leave it be for the allotted time then almost any parasite or fish disease should be dead no matter what it is I believe? I'd almost be willing to bet you could get a clown on here for next to nothing if you wait the time out to kill the disease. Also if you look around I bet you could find a free 10g and in about 4 weeks get your self another clown and quarantine it for the last 4 weeks of your display's fishless time cycle. Then if there's any problems with the fish you can medicate as needed or some people medicate there quarantine fish just to be safe. Either way in the end you should have a disease free display and a couple disease free clowns that will last you a very long time!  Everyone in this hobby goes through tons of trials and tribulations in the beginning it's just a live and learn experience and you'll be a better reefer in the end for it if you don't give up. I still have problems and my tanks been up over a year witch in reef tank years it's still a baby. Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards |
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 7:58:45 GMT -5
Also if you order your next clowns from liveaquaria they'll have a guarantee so if they die you'll get your money back.
Before the time comes to add fish again get a group order going on here do you don't have to pay shipping or at lazy pay less shipping.I've been wanting some new additions so I'd make sure to be in fit a fish or 2!;D
Don't forget you'll also be able to enjoy your corals and nems while your waiting for your display to be ready!
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Post by jess on May 14, 2014 8:03:31 GMT -5
How long ago did you move your tank? Did you empty the sand and all that? Possible that your tank had a mini cycle from the move.
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Post by gotareef on May 14, 2014 8:07:52 GMT -5
+1 gasses released into the water the fish probably couldnt breath, the reason it dosnt have any marks on it.... just $100  (not proud but) I have lost single clowns that cost $150-$200 each. |
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Post by gotareef on May 14, 2014 8:10:19 GMT -5
I think gasses stirred up into the water column would effect the fish but not the coral....
jason where your post go? I replied then it was gone weird....
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 8:10:21 GMT -5
Wouldn't a loss of oxygen be shown in the pH?
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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 8:12:44 GMT -5
No I didn't remove the sand. It was moved over a week ago, with sand, water, and snails still in it.
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 8:16:56 GMT -5
But they lost clowns before the move didn't they? I'd test the parameters to see if there's any fluctuations that would show from the mini cycle.
They've suffered multiple losses all of the same species? Before and after the move. You don't think they're at all related?
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Post by gotareef on May 14, 2014 8:17:08 GMT -5
a slight swing in ph is a normal part of the tank it happens everyday when you shut your lights off or turn them on.
compile that with toxic gasses.... dead fish
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(not proud but) I have lost single clowns that cost $150-$200 each.