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Post by gotareef on May 14, 2014 8:20:02 GMT -5
any chemicals being sprayed around the tank? or perfume or lotion on your hands when you messed with the tank?
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Post by jess on May 14, 2014 8:39:49 GMT -5
Even if you moved it with sand still in it, the movement in transporting it is enough to stir up the sand bed resulting in toxins being released. Add that to a nano sized tank with fluctuating parameters. In my nanos I've only been able to keep these mollies and the mandarin. The damsels and clowns died. I believe it's from the swings of ph and salinity increases from evaporation.
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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 8:57:47 GMT -5
Okay - So I don't think it was moving that did them in, because as said before, they were dying before the move. I've tested my water since bringing it home and theres nothing to indicate a cycle happened, and like I said my corals all look awesome! (I've also done a water change since being home). Nothing should be around the tank, it's in my room, and no one but myself is around it, and I've been EXTREMELY cautious, in hopes to not lose another clown, but we can see that didn't work...
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on May 14, 2014 9:03:35 GMT -5
How long have you had each clownfish before it died?
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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 9:04:20 GMT -5
Not long, 2 weeks ish.
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 9:09:04 GMT -5
Ph swing at night is very small and doesn't normally cause these kind of problems does it? My ph only changes about 0.05 at night time and was effected very little when the landscaping pistol shrimp was moving sand in my tank nightly and never slowed down. I just think once again if they lost clowns before the move with the tank already cycled Idk how this could be the sole problem? How many people out there successfully keep clowns in a nano? My guess would be allot since it's one of the most popular fish in this hobby.
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Post by Cowdogz on May 14, 2014 9:09:55 GMT -5
Easy has been having some trouble with their clownfish shipments lately.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on May 14, 2014 9:16:55 GMT -5
Two weeks or so? Sounds to me like it's one of two things going on. Either something in your tank is off and causing a toxicity to fish only or it was most likely poor quality fish to begin with. Probably mishandled, under fed or diseased from the wholesaler. Many times we can buy fish that have internal damage from mishandling or internal parasites that we cannot see. I've had it happen many times. Bring a fish home and it will be fine for a few days to a few weeks and then either all of a sudden it will die or it will slowly start to get skinny and wither away. How fish are collected, transported and handled during a sale makes a huge difference In the fishes survivability in a boxed enclosure.
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Post by jasonandsarah on May 14, 2014 9:22:08 GMT -5
Let's say it's am internal parasite would that still be free swimming in the tank for a period of time? Also if easy knows they've been having s problem with clowns like cowdogz said then maybe they'd be able to tell you the problem and the best solution? Might even give you a credit if they know the problem came from them? Might... Sent from my SCH-R970 using proboards
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on May 14, 2014 9:26:18 GMT -5
Yea I've noticed a bunch of his clowns were kinda crappy looking the last few times I've been there. That's not saying easy aquariums is to blame though. Like I said it's a supply issue. The upside to ordering from a source like LiveAquaria is that if the fish dies before the 14th day is over you get to report the loss and get refunded the purchase price. No local store can do that. The $34.99 flat rate overnight shipping really isn't that bad when you consider the fuel cost to drive to most local fish stores unless you live within spitting distance and only buy cheap fish. You said your water parameters looked good? What were they? Are you using an activated carbon, filter media or poly filter to remove any possible unseen chemicals or toxins that could be in your water?
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Post by jess on May 14, 2014 9:35:30 GMT -5
With it being a nano are you running ato or doing manually? What's your salinity at? How often do you top off if doing it hand? What do you have for corals?
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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 11:14:28 GMT -5
I have blastos, hammers, frogspawn, zoas, mushrooms, a anemone that's hated me since I got it (It survived the tank cycle). I think that's it. I have some Xenia too. All look amazing. My parameters are all zero other than nitrates which I've struggled with since I got it. I top off all the time and last time I did a large water change it was with Easy's water
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Post by jess on May 14, 2014 12:27:06 GMT -5
What are nitrates at? On my picos I have to top off daily now, if i don't it raises the salinity to high, probably ph to but have never actually checked it.
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Post by haleigh on May 14, 2014 12:30:55 GMT -5
My nirates stay around 20ppm. Which is totally fine for fish, and my coral seem fine by it too. I use the crushed coral bottom, so I've heard that could be the source behind those.
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Post by jess on May 14, 2014 12:45:57 GMT -5
It likely is. However over time your livestock isn't going to always be fine under those conditions. Short term is ok but extended periods cause stress. I would definitely pull the crushed coral and add sand, it will save allot of headache in the future.
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