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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Nov 14, 2015 17:51:54 GMT -5
Little update. I talked to the owner tonight and we agreed that the best plan of action for this tank is to completely drain and restart the entire tank the right way with clean RODI water instead of town water. All the rock and livestock will be removed and housed separately. The fine sand will be stirred while draining to remove as much organic material as possible. Then the tank will be refilled with RODI water to kill off any residual algae/bacteria. New salt will go it and once the salinity has stabilized the bare live rock and 5 bags of coarse live sand will go in on top of the dead fine sand to restart the cycle. Going to let it go through a full 4-6 week cycle period this time rather the the one week it had after it was setup the first time.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Nov 23, 2015 20:10:42 GMT -5
Today was D day for this tank. Drain day that is. Jasonbowdoin and I completely drained all the green city water from this reef gone wrong including all the green water in the sump tonight. Removed and inventoried all the fish and shrimp and I'm currently housing all livestock in my own system. I will be making a forsake thread soon for some of the fish that won't be going back into the tank once it's cycled.
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Post by Rakahrd Eastbrook, Me. on Nov 26, 2015 20:41:10 GMT -5
how do you figure top bio-load for a system? and do corals count as bio-load?
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Nov 26, 2015 22:42:57 GMT -5
It's pretty difficult to figure out how much is too much bio load. About the easiest way to know will be when you see problems like Cyanobacteria or excessive algae outbreaks. Too much bio load will cause too much nutrients which in. Turn leads to these issues. How much bio load you can keep depends entirely on how much water volume you have and how well filtered it is. Generally corals aren't considered to add to bio load.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Nov 27, 2015 21:52:12 GMT -5
Well the tank is basically full of RODI water and this evening I went over and added salt and got the power heads mixing it. Attachments:
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Post by Rakahrd Eastbrook, Me. on Nov 28, 2015 14:46:14 GMT -5
things lookin up then great.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Dec 31, 2015 20:46:14 GMT -5
So its been a few weeks since I set this tank back up and got it running to cycle. I went over to Check on it today after the owner alerted me that there was an odor. Well I didn't smell anything funky with the tank but what u found was way worse. I got there and the display tank looked crisp and clean like I expected but when I went down to the basement me heard dropped. Water everywhere on the concrete floor. Apparently the tubing going to the float valve had some how loosened up and allowed RODI water to flood the sump for who knows how long. I tested salinity and it was .000!!!! Apparently the owner doesn't go into the basement very often so no one ever noticed anything was wrong. Going to have to add all the salt again and hope i can get it cycling again without issues. I gotta say I'm running out of steam with this project. Attachments:
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Post by jasonandsarah on Dec 31, 2015 21:53:14 GMT -5
So its been a few weeks since I set this tank back up and got it running to cycle. I went over to Check on it today after the owner alerted me that there was an odor. Well I didn't smell anything funky with the tank but what u found was way worse. I got there and the display tank looked crisp and clean like I expected but when I went down to the basement me heard dropped. Water everywhere on the concrete floor. Apparently the tubing going to the float valve had some how loosened up and allowed RODI water to flood the sump for who knows how long. I tested salinity and it was .000!!!! Apparently the owner doesn't go into the basement very often so no one ever noticed anything was wrong. Going to have to add all the salt again and hope i can get it cycling again without issues. I gotta say I'm running out of steam with this project. Really really sorry to hear this Ryan. Not trying to make things worse bit that's why an Apex on a client tank can be so helpful. 1 Leak detection module could have alerted you there was leaking water. Taking care of a tank from a distance is soo much easier when you know everything that's going on from a distance. Sorry your having trouble!  |
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Dec 31, 2015 23:55:04 GMT -5
So its been a few weeks since I set this tank back up and got it running to cycle. I went over to Check on it today after the owner alerted me that there was an odor. Well I didn't smell anything funky with the tank but what u found was way worse. I got there and the display tank looked crisp and clean like I expected but when I went down to the basement me heard dropped. Water everywhere on the concrete floor. Apparently the tubing going to the float valve had some how loosened up and allowed RODI water to flood the sump for who knows how long. I tested salinity and it was .000!!!! Apparently the owner doesn't go into the basement very often so no one ever noticed anything was wrong. Going to have to add all the salt again and hope i can get it cycling again without issues. I gotta say I'm running out of steam with this project. Really really sorry to hear this Ryan. Not trying to make things worse bit that's why an Apex on a client tank can be so helpful. 1 Leak detection module could have alerted you there was leaking water. Taking care of a tank from a distance is soo much easier when you know everything that's going on from a distance. Sorry your having trouble! I definitely see the benefit of having an apex but I have zero experience with controllers of any sort aside from from the eco smart live online platform. She has a brand new apex sitting in the box unopened even. The last guy never set it up and I've never had a need for one on mine or my other clients tank. Realistically I'm most likely going to pass this off to Stephen or easy aquariums once I get it going in the right direction. I'm doing everything for free to help right now so I'm not receiving any payment for anything. I really don't even have time for another client tank but I couldn't just let this woman keep being strung along for however long believing that she was getting what she paid for. To tell ya the truth The guys who set this system up made such a clusterf*** of everything that it's almost a loosing battle. Just to swap out any electronic device upstairs like lights or power heads, I will have to cut the return plumbing because the idiots drilled holes through a 200 year old floor then ran all the power cords for the lights and wave makers through before filling the hole with PVC pipe for the return. It's physically impossible to remove the electrical cords now and there's no upstairs outlets behind th tank. Tanks like this really drain the fun out of the hobby. |
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Post by spotfin on Jan 1, 2016 9:22:38 GMT -5
Sorry to hear. Is the owner set on a reef tank? Perhaps a fish only or even freshwater might be a better for her? Especially where it doesn't seem she to be aware of the tank operations.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Jan 1, 2016 9:29:02 GMT -5
I'm going to bring that up next time I see her.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jan 4, 2016 8:00:01 GMT -5
Really really sorry to hear this Ryan. Not trying to make things worse bit that's why an Apex on a client tank can be so helpful. 1 Leak detection module could have alerted you there was leaking water. Taking care of a tank from a distance is soo much easier when you know everything that's going on from a distance. Sorry your having trouble! I definitely see the benefit of having an apex but I have zero experience with controllers of any sort aside from from the eco smart live online platform. She has a brand new apex sitting in the box unopened even. The last guy never set it up and I've never had a need for one on mine or my other clients tank. Realistically I'm most likely going to pass this off to Stephen or easy aquariums once I get it going in the right direction. I'm doing everything for free to help right now so I'm not receiving any payment for anything. I really don't even have time for another client tank but I couldn't just let this woman keep being strung along for however long believing that she was getting what she paid for. To tell ya the truth The guys who set this system up made such a clusterf*** of everything that it's almost a loosing battle. Just to swap out any electronic device upstairs like lights or power heads, I will have to cut the return plumbing because the idiots drilled holes through a 200 year old floor then ran all the power cords for the lights and wave makers through before filling the hole with PVC pipe for the return. It's physically impossible to remove the electrical cords now and there's no upstairs outlets behind th tank. Tanks like this really drain the fun out of the hobby. I'd be more then willing to help set it up if you guys decide to go the apex route. Also if she buys a 30$ Web cam you could stream the video live through fusion, so you know what's up with the tank from home  |
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 25, 2016 17:43:38 GMT -5
Well the tank has some life at least. Nitrates are at zero and a small cleanup crew has been living in there for a few weeks now. As soon as the humidity and mold issues in the canopy are solved I will be adding fish. |
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Post by spotfin on Feb 25, 2016 21:06:19 GMT -5
Hardy little huggers. Could you use a bleach solution in a spray bottle for the canopy?
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 25, 2016 21:30:22 GMT -5
Hardy little huggers. Could you use a bleach solution in a spray bottle for the canopy? Yes, I am bleaching the canopy. It's sitting in my shelter behind my tractor right now after being doused with a heavy amount of bleach. Tomorrow I'm hopefully going to hose it down and dry it off. Then it's time to modify it. |
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