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Post by robert on Oct 18, 2015 21:13:14 GMT -5
I've recently been looking into getting a mantis shrimp obviously there saltwater and I've only had freshwater tanks. I'd like to turn a 10 gallon or 30 gallon (depending on which species I want to get) into a saltwater tank but I don't want to make a sump and get weird with the saltwater lingo as of yet. it would just be a fowlr setup I believe that is the term but I don't have the slightest idea on the things I need or how to do any of it. I've looked up setting up saltwater tanks but every video is of people setting up decked out tanks with skimmers and rufugiums and what not. help!
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Post by foggman on Oct 18, 2015 21:22:39 GMT -5
for your first salt water tank the bigger the better, smaller tanks are harder to keep IMO they are not as stable, the more water volume you have the less things will change. that is one reason to have a sump. not only to house filtration but to also add water volume with out taking up alot of space on a big tank. im sure it can be done with out one but a skimmer almost always a must on salter water tanks. it is part of the basic filtration.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Oct 19, 2015 7:15:06 GMT -5
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Post by robert on Oct 19, 2015 17:08:35 GMT -5
The only thing I'm worried about is having the mantis shrimp "punch" the sides of the tank. I guess they should be housed in an acrylic tank due to their aggressive nature. I'll look into the bio cube but I feel I could put something together for less then $250
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Post by jasonandsarah on Oct 19, 2015 19:14:57 GMT -5
The only thing I'm worried about is having the mantis shrimp "punch" the sides of the tank. I guess they should be housed in an acrylic tank due to their aggressive nature. I'll look into the bio cube but I feel I could put something together for less then $250 You probably could put something together for less then that. But putting something together with the ease of the filtration being built in idk? Also I've heard it's a myth that mantis can break glass, but I bet they'd scratch the crap out of acrylic. Ultimately it's up to you though and what you think is best. Just make sure you don't make a impulsive decision.
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Post by spotfin on Oct 19, 2015 20:37:31 GMT -5
The mantis shrimps are divide into two basic groups- those that spear and those that smash. Spearers feed more on fish/worms while smashers feed on shelled inverts. The smashers are usually the ones that break tanks. Depending on which species you are interested in keeping, you could use a 10 gal. A 30 gal will give you more options.
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Post by Rakahrd Eastbrook, Me. on Oct 19, 2015 20:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by robert on Oct 20, 2015 15:57:39 GMT -5
I'll look into that HOB skimmer/refugium. I was leaning towards the 30 but I think a 40 breeder would be better. I've narrowed the list down to 2 smashers I like which would be a peacock mantis which would need the larger tank or a Gonodactylus smithii (purple spot) both are smashers. An I have yet to see one break a tank but I've seen videos of them chipping the aquarium
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Post by speedyron on Oct 23, 2015 15:40:46 GMT -5
I dont know how familiar u are with sat water tanks but fowlrs with invert eating animals in them arent allways easy to keep clean. In the hobby we try to balance our tanks so they are less demanding of our time part of this involves clean up crews of snails and crabs which will be eaten just somthing to consider they can be lot work
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