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Post by CultivatedReef on Oct 14, 2015 15:33:33 GMT -5
when you say blasto is it merletti or wellsi? Probably both You know me to well
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Post by CultivatedReef on Oct 14, 2015 15:35:15 GMT -5
At this point their is going to be about 150 corals to choose from. This will be our biggest draft yet!
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Post by jasonandsarah on Oct 14, 2015 15:51:55 GMT -5
At this point their is going to be about 150 corals to choose from. This will be our biggest draft yet! Super super psyched! Hope there's a ton of Lps and Zoa heads there!
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Post by Rakahrd Eastbrook, Me. on Oct 14, 2015 16:22:19 GMT -5
new rule ya gotta pick Blindfolded ! WEG I bought some marine snow from 2 little fishies is that going to do ok feeding corals? I cant wait to see what My wife would like to have . is our first ever swap/draft.
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Post by CultivatedReef on Oct 14, 2015 17:33:02 GMT -5
I've never used marine snow so maybe someone else can chime in here but I would say that as long as you have some fish that you are feeding then the corals will get all they need from fish waste and lighting.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Oct 14, 2015 17:41:23 GMT -5
I've never used marine snow so maybe someone else can chime in here but I would say that as long as you have some fish that you are feeding then the corals will get all they need from fish waste and lighting. You don't dose strawberry jam? Lol jk don't do that anyone! new rule ya gotta pick Blindfolded ! WEG I bought some marine snow from 2 little fishies is that going to do ok feeding corals? I cant wait to see what My wife would like to have . is our first ever swap/draft. What Greg said! Lol if I "feed" my corals anything besides leftovers and fish pooo I feed this Very weird observation but since I started dosing phytoplankton a few times a week my "brown sand" spots have diminished significantly. No science just eyeballs.
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Post by Sean (90 reef, fw rack sys) on Oct 15, 2015 4:56:28 GMT -5
This really sucks! I wish I could be there!
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Post by reefkprz on Oct 15, 2015 6:17:48 GMT -5
i'm a big fan of wellsi
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Post by reefkprz on Oct 15, 2015 6:19:21 GMT -5
Marine snow is in my opinion bottled pollution, your actually better off feeding small amounts of the watery part of your skimmate back into your tank. (which I do, and there is science to back up why). in your skimmate certain bacteria and micro fauna proliferate and hit very high concentrations, far higher than is typically available in your tank due to the extreme concentration of food available in the skimmer cup. I have re-fed skimmate for about 6 years now. be careful if you attempt this too much, well, you can understand the risks of putting what you removed back in... ALSO I want to note, I started this because I was having a hard time keeping various decorative sponges and the stuffs that grows in the skimmate seems to be in the right size range for sponges to feed on because my success rate appeared to go up (aka they stopped receeding) it could be coincidental.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Oct 15, 2015 7:36:12 GMT -5
I just recently sold a huge colony of pure reds.
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Post by Pokahpolice on Oct 15, 2015 8:09:18 GMT -5
Marine snow is in my opinion bottled pollution, your actually better off feeding small amounts of the watery part of your skimmate back into your tank. (which I do, and there is science to back up why). in your skimmate certain bacteria and micro fauna proliferate and hit very high concentrations, far higher than is typically available in your tank due to the extreme concentration of food available in the skimmer cup. I have re-fed skimmate for about 6 years now. be careful if you attempt this too much, well, you can understand the risks of putting what you removed back in... ALSO I want to note, I started this because I was having a hard time keeping various decorative sponges and the stuffs that grows in the skimmate seems to be in the right size range for sponges to feed on because my success rate appeared to go up (aka they stopped receeding) it could be coincidental. Please share the science to back this up. Not saying that to call you out, I'd actually like to read it if you have a source. I've read a few thread where people ask the question and then get chastised for it but I've never read anything written to support the practice. I have read a detailed article that will make your head spin of the chemistry of skimmate. Personally I think the practice may do more harm than good but, with that said, your reason for doing it (target feeding only certain areas i.e. sponges) makes a lot of sense. The question becomes, is what your placing back into the water actually beneficial?
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Post by Pokahpolice on Oct 15, 2015 8:11:24 GMT -5
I really wish this conversation was on a different thread. It's interesting but just congesting the swap/draft thread.
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Post by reefkprz on Oct 16, 2015 6:47:38 GMT -5
Please share the science to back this up. Not saying that to call you out, I'd actually like to read it if you have a source. I've read a few thread where people ask the question and then get chastised for it but I've never read anything written to support the practice. I have read a detailed article that will make your head spin of the chemistry of skimmate. Personally I think the practice may do more harm than good but, with that said, your reason for doing it (target feeding only certain areas i.e. sponges) makes a lot of sense. The question becomes, is what your placing back into the water actually beneficial? I'll see if I can find the paper that was analyzing skimmate before and after drying it out for chemical analysis, it's like 7 years ago that I read it. It's the before drying that was important to me because once you dry it there's no way of telling what was alive and possibly bio-available as food source, dry it out and everything is broken down to its chemical components or killed which definitely affects the end analysis like not knowing if the bacteria present in the analysis was live or dead etc and there may now be far better analysis available than that one. Don't quote me on this but I believe it was sprung or borneman that wrote the analysis that I used. The conclusions of possibly feeding skimmate back to the tank was entirely my own and a desperate attempt to keep my various pink, red, yellow sponges alive, which in my opinion worked. I don't know why some one would chastize some one for asking for the research they used to reach their conclusions? isn't that like the opposite of what forums like this are for? which I believe to be sharing information to help grow the hobby and our knowledge of how to keep the tricky stuff, not bury it with "I'm right and it doesn't matter what information I use" I'll never understand people like that.
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Post by reefkprz on Oct 16, 2015 6:51:54 GMT -5
Keep in mind, my practices in reefing are not ideal for everyone, and I often recommend against doing things the way I do, I feed my tanks on average 5-7 times a day (once they are ready, the practice of which would require a larger dissertation than I am prepared to write at 7:30 in the morning lol) when/if I can find the article i'll start a new thread so we can continue this discussion there. if I can't find that one I'll find what information I can and see if I can explain my conclusions.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Oct 16, 2015 10:31:29 GMT -5
Looks like I'm not gonna make it for this swap.
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