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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 22, 2014 18:49:18 GMT -5
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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 22, 2014 18:50:49 GMT -5
Second favorite! Lol
The real “threat” of competition is not between the well diversified American-made products, but from a flood of cheaply made Chinese OEM products which are of questionable value and quality, and often rebranded by other companies looking to make a quick buck......
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Post by BriMc on Sept 23, 2014 10:55:48 GMT -5
It would be more impressive if they sourced their components in the U.S.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 23, 2014 11:37:24 GMT -5
Do you think they source these products from overseas because they're cheaper or because they're better? The US isn't exactly a lighting mecca. Especially led's
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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 23, 2014 11:38:41 GMT -5
It would be more impressive if they sourced their components in the U.S. Also what company that makes reef led's does? Sent from my SM-N900R4 using proboards |
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Post by BriMc on Sept 23, 2014 12:31:06 GMT -5
Exactly my point, There are at least 11 developers and 4 manufacturers of Led's in the North east alone. California has a minimum of 15 actual manufactures that " manufacture " the led not import the chip from china and mount it on a board and call it their own. It is sort of a play on words calling yourself a U.S. manufacturer when you import all your parts from China. But yes you are right who does.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 23, 2014 13:27:59 GMT -5
Exactly my point, There are at least 11 developers and 4 manufacturers of Led's in the North east alone. California has a minimum of 15 actual manufactures that " manufacture " the led not import the chip from china and mount it on a board and call it their own. It is sort of a play on words calling yourself a U.S. manufacturer when you import all your parts from China. But yes you are right who does. Are we talking about the actual diodes? Because I'm pretty sure that echotech and Aqua Illumination make a lot of there own parts? Quote from Aqua Illumination Web site- Since the beginning we have engineered, designed, and assembled all our modules in Ames, Iowa. Focusing on engineering and design with our in house team we produce top products at great prices. We assemble all PCB’s in house with our high throughput SMT line, giving us the ability to oversee our quality control to the highest degree while keeping prices down. We focus on sourcing quality material from the US, for example all of our EXT rails are manufactured in America. www.aquaillumination.com/lighting/I believe echotech does the same? Now that they've joined forces in almost positive they do. As far as diodes are concerned they use mostly cree and semi led's witch is the best Imo and what people want them to use. They also list bin #'s and specs for each diode witch is great so you actually know your getting the right spectrum because as you know small variants in Nm and output can mean a world of difference. Sorry for the rant and I could be wrong but this is my understanding and what I know from my own personal research. Sent from my SM-N900R4 using proboards |
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Post by BriMc on Sept 23, 2014 15:21:51 GMT -5
Semi's manufacturing plant is in Taiwan, Cree manufactures the chip in North Carolina sends it off to China to be packaged ( not packaging as in putting it in a box ) and then sends it to whom ever to be installed on a luminaire ( pcb ). Ecotech and Aqua illuminations could not afford to manufacture their own LED's. As stated on their website Since the beginning we have engineered, designed, and assembled all our modules in Ames, Iowa. Yes they engineer, Design and assemble all their modules but outsource the making of heir components. The you tube link was funny, their lights run cooler, optics are insanely efficient, are so well built, most reliable, output more power using less energy then their competitors', and their basis on this is because their lights are engineered, assembled and tested in house in Iowa, really? that is pretty scientific and backed up with data. Both of these companies merging should help cost with more buying power, I hope in the future the lower cost is passed on to the consumer. Jason you are correct most chip makers are off shores. It would be awesome to see a U. S. aquarium light fixture manufacturer use all U.S. made components that is all I am saying.  |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 23, 2014 17:28:44 GMT -5
Both of these companies merging should help cost with more buying power, I hope in the future the lower cost is passed on to the consumer. Jason you are correct most chip makers are off shores. It would be awesome to see a U. S. aquarium light fixture manufacturer use all U.S. made components that is all I am saying. I have to say I completely agree! As long as the American products are the better available product or within reason. It's definitely worth it to pay a little more for American made products and keep our money in the states where it BELONGS!  Sent from my SM-N900R4 using proboards |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 23, 2014 17:31:04 GMT -5
Also I agree about the Aqua Illumination claiming to be cooler without any proof. I think they were trying to say the way there PCB’s are manufactured? Then again I know very little about the production of Led's or lighting at all so I will gladly defer to you in this instance.
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Post by moulton712 on Sept 23, 2014 20:03:38 GMT -5
AI use a massive aluminum heat sink. Most do not. Of course theirs is going to run cooler. Cooler with LEDs at the same energy means more efficient.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Sept 23, 2014 20:22:43 GMT -5
AI use a massive aluminum heat sink. Most do not. Of course theirs is going to run cooler. Cooler with LEDs at the same energy means more efficient. Did you put yours back up? Sent from my SM-N900R4 using proboards |
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Post by moulton712 on Sept 25, 2014 13:45:31 GMT -5
No, but it's for sale
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