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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 15, 2014 17:15:25 GMT -5
I used 1/4" glass for my baffles and have waked it with live rock and no problems at all. If it was 1/8" glass I think it would have broke a few times already. I think if the tank is made of 1/4" glass the why not the baffles?
My 3 baffles cut and cleaned up was only 32$ at our local glass place.
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Post by Pokahpolice on Jun 15, 2014 18:06:07 GMT -5
Pretty sure that Lowes carries 1/4 glass and they cut it for free. Personally I think 1/8 glass is fine for baffles...there isn't any pressure on them. A glass cutting tool is about $6 and extremely easy to use...FYI No pressure until you have an ato malfunction and the return chamber almost empties, or if you accidentally knock it with a piece of live rock, skimmer or whatever. Using 1/8" glass imo is not worth the cost savings when compared to the higher possibility of a baffle breaking and having to be replaced, that would suck. We should strive for the highest and most easily attainable safety factor. I was also told that you can't drill 1/8 glass because it usually breaks, and they crack too easy with bulkheads. 4 tanks later and no issues. I wouldn't use 1/8 on a large sump but a 55 is only 12" wide. If you plan on bashing it with rocks then you probably want to go with acrylic and skip glass altogether. |
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Post by maineultraclassic on Jun 15, 2014 18:31:27 GMT -5
I actually dropped one of my 1/4" baffles, slipped right out of my hands, bounced off the wood floor and didn't even chip or anything.
Go with 1/4"......save yourself any issues down the road.
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Post by Syntax on Jun 15, 2014 20:56:12 GMT -5
No pressure until you have an ato malfunction and the return chamber almost empties, or if you accidentally knock it with a piece of live rock, skimmer or whatever. Using 1/8" glass imo is not worth the cost savings when compared to the higher possibility of a baffle breaking and having to be replaced, that would suck. We should strive for the highest and most easily attainable safety factor. I was also told that you can't drill 1/8 glass because it usually breaks, and they crack too easy with bulkheads. 4 tanks later and no issues. I wouldn't use 1/8 on a large sump but a 55 is only 12" wide. If you plan on bashing it with rocks then you probably want to go with acrylic and skip glass altogether. Are you honestly trying to make a legitimate argument that using 1/8" thick baffles is better than 1/4"? The odds are not in your favor by going with the thinner glass (except maybe a 10 gallon sump). C'mon man, nobody plans on "bashing" their tank with rocks, it's called an ... accident. And there's a reason people say that 1/8 inch glass has a tendency to crack more than tanks made with thicker glass, it's because it's true! Congratulations on beating the odds, but why take a chance? Just because you have done it doesn't make it the best or safest choice. You are playing a game that I want no part of, high risk, no reward... I'll play it safe and plan for things that might happen, such as the possibility of hitting a baffle with a rock while placing or removing it from the sump or something else that I have not thought of. |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 16, 2014 7:06:05 GMT -5
It's normally around 30$ for 3-1/4"baffles imho not really that much money and your taking up a total combined 3/8" more space from your sump, not very much.
Everyone can have different opinions but there's very little down side to using 1/4" baffles and there could potentially be at least one down side to using 1/8"baffles.
When I first got into keeping fish I was setting up a 10g fresh water tank, brand new from Wal-Mart for breeding guppies. I had it filled with just water and colored rocks and my wife decided she wanted it moved so I picked it up to move it and the whole bottom just shattered and fell out. I'm pretty sure 10g tanks are made with 1/8"glass and it wasn't even all the way filled so under 80 lbs. Better safe then sorry.
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Post by Pokahpolice on Jun 16, 2014 7:29:08 GMT -5
I was also told that you can't drill 1/8 glass because it usually breaks, and they crack too easy with bulkheads. 4 tanks later and no issues. I wouldn't use 1/8 on a large sump but a 55 is only 12" wide. If you plan on bashing it with rocks then you probably want to go with acrylic and skip glass altogether. Are you honestly trying to make a legitimate argument that using 1/8" thick baffles is better than 1/4"? The odds are not in your favor by going with the thinner glass (except maybe a 10 gallon sump). C'mon man, nobody plans on "bashing" their tank with rocks, it's called an ... accident. And there's a reason people say that 1/8 inch glass has a tendency to crack more than tanks made with thicker glass, it's because it's true! Congratulations on beating the odds, but why take a chance? Just because you have done it doesn't make it the best or safest choice. You are playing a game that I want no part of, high risk, no reward... I'll play it safe and plan for things that might happen, such as the possibility of hitting a baffle with a rock while placing or removing it from the sump or something else that I have not thought of. I just think your response was silly. I made a comment that I thought 1/8 was fine for baffles and your talking about bashing shit with rocks. It's glass, be more careful. It's a baffle not a tank and personally I have no issue using 1/8 on baffles. You feel better about 1/4, have at it. |
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Post by Pokahpolice on Jun 16, 2014 7:33:23 GMT -5
It's normally around 30$ for 3-1/4"baffles imho not really that much money and your taking up a total combined 3/8" more space from your sump, not very much. Everyone can have different opinions but there's very little down side to using 1/4" baffles and there could potentially be at least one down side to using 1/8"baffles. When I first got into keeping fish I was setting up a 10g fresh water tank, brand new from Wal-Mart for breeding guppies. I had it filled with just water and colored rocks and my wife decided she wanted it moved so I picked it up to move it and the whole bottom just shattered and fell out. I'm pretty sure 10g tanks are made with 1/8"glass and it wasn't even all the way filled so under 80 lbs. Better safe then sorry. Baffles guys...baffles.  |
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Post by Syntax on Jun 16, 2014 7:59:07 GMT -5
It's normally around 30$ for 3-1/4"baffles imho not really that much money and your taking up a total combined 3/8" more space from your sump, not very much. Everyone can have different opinions but there's very little down side to using 1/4" baffles and there could potentially be at least one down side to using 1/8"baffles. When I first got into keeping fish I was setting up a 10g fresh water tank, brand new from Wal-Mart for breeding guppies. I had it filled with just water and colored rocks and my wife decided she wanted it moved so I picked it up to move it and the whole bottom just shattered and fell out. I'm pretty sure 10g tanks are made with 1/8"glass and it wasn't even all the way filled so under 80 lbs. Better safe then sorry. Baffles guys...baffles. Silly? ok. Yes, I know we are discussing baffles; however, I'd rather not have to try and fix a broken or cracked baffle in a functioning sump, that would be a real pain. To each his own. |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 16, 2014 8:08:25 GMT -5
It's normally around 30$ for 3-1/4"baffles imho not really that much money and your taking up a total combined 3/8" more space from your sump, not very much. Everyone can have different opinions but there's very little down side to using 1/4" baffles and there could potentially be at least one down side to using 1/8"baffles. When I first got into keeping fish I was setting up a 10g fresh water tank, brand new from Wal-Mart for breeding guppies. I had it filled with just water and colored rocks and my wife decided she wanted it moved so I picked it up to move it and the whole bottom just shattered and fell out. I'm pretty sure 10g tanks are made with 1/8"glass and it wasn't even all the way filled so under 80 lbs. Better safe then sorry. Baffles guys...baffles. I was simply stating why I don't use 1/8" glass everyone has there opinions. If I had a 10g tank with a 10g sump I'd probably use 1/8" glass to. |
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Post by Pokahpolice on Jun 16, 2014 8:18:17 GMT -5
Sometimes I ride a bicycle without a helmet too.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 16, 2014 8:27:43 GMT -5
Talented
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Jun 16, 2014 11:35:06 GMT -5
Haha I still use acrylic baffles in a glass sump so I don't have to worry about them breaking, they're pretty cheap too and I can cut, drill, drop and even cut overflow teeth in them. 1/8 glass baffles may hold up to the water weight pushing on them but if your like me and keep rocks in your sump then I'd be worried about rocks breaking the baffles. 1/4 inch thick glass is much more resistant to breaking from the sudden shock of a rock getting knocked over in the sump.
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Post by Syntax on Jun 16, 2014 12:20:03 GMT -5
Are you honestly trying to make a legitimate argument that using 1/8" thick baffles is better than 1/4"? The odds are not in your favor by going with the thinner glass (except maybe a 10 gallon sump). C'mon man, nobody plans on "bashing" their tank with rocks, it's called an ... accident. And there's a reason people say that 1/8 inch glass has a tendency to crack more than tanks made with thicker glass, it's because it's true! Congratulations on beating the odds, but why take a chance? Just because you have done it doesn't make it the best or safest choice. You are playing a game that I want no part of, high risk, no reward... I'll play it safe and plan for things that might happen, such as the possibility of hitting a baffle with a rock while placing or removing it from the sump or something else that I have not thought of. I just think your response was silly. I made a comment that I thought 1/8 was fine for baffles and your talking about bashing shit with rocks. It's glass, be more careful. It's a baffle not a tank and personally I have no issue using 1/8 on baffles. You feel better about 1/4, have at it. hmmm, I think you were the one who made the comment about "If you plan on bashing it with rocks"... I was simply responding. Read more: mainefragswap.proboards.com/post/24225/quote/2363?page=2#ixzz34p85YrKo |
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Post by Pokahpolice on Jun 16, 2014 14:20:49 GMT -5
I just think your response was silly. I made a comment that I thought 1/8 was fine for baffles and your talking about bashing shit with rocks. It's glass, be more careful. It's a baffle not a tank and personally I have no issue using 1/8 on baffles. You feel better about 1/4, have at it. hmmm, I think you were the one who made the comment about "If you plan on bashing it with rocks"... I was simply responding. Read more: mainefragswap.proboards.com/post/24225/quote/2363?page=2#ixzz34p85YrKo |
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Post by chevy50sd on Jun 16, 2014 14:42:47 GMT -5
I took some old aquariums with scratched up glass and took them apart bought a good oil fillable glass cutter and a pair of glass pliers from amazon for about 12 bucks and made my own baffles for 2 sumps that I built. You can take the edge off of the glass with a sander or fine grinding pad and a dremel tool with out much trouble & some patients. I even drilled my glass with some low price diamond edge hole saws purchased on amazon. $5 or 6 bucks depending on size just use plenty of water and let the drill do the work don't try to speed it up by pushing. Both cutting the glass and drilling are not that hard just take your time and the key thing is patient's. And it is a great way to recycle some of those old scratched up not so good looking aquariums that you see kicking around yard sales, resale shops and even the local dumps.
I to was getting crazy prices from Portland Glass.
If any one wanted to try cutting there own in my area I would be happy to help.
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