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Post by Pokahpolice on Apr 16, 2014 9:50:49 GMT -5
That article doesn't state that bacteria strives in low light but it most certainly addresses DOC. You can do a quick google search and you can find some documentation on the effects of UV on bacteria. I will state that this is MY theory and conclusion from experience and I'm not stating it as fact.
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Post by gotareef on Apr 16, 2014 10:59:04 GMT -5
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Post by jasonandsarah on Apr 16, 2014 11:02:27 GMT -5
I just wanted to read the article for myself and it's a great read with lots of information. It's a little dated though written in 1997 and the email on the article no longer works.
I'd be very interested to know if the author of this article still feels this way 17 yrs later? They called cyano a bacteria/algae. I never said I doubted that cyano feeds on Doc. I only said it's not their only nutrient source. They also feed on lighting (red spec) and nitrogen.
Now these 3 things are all "Bad" for a reef tank so imo like I stated before I'd personally attack it from all 3 angles.
In his other thread her already said he had an Ro/Di unit.
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Post by Pokahpolice on Apr 16, 2014 11:37:27 GMT -5
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Post by jasonandsarah on Apr 16, 2014 11:56:45 GMT -5
Right but this states some forms of cyanobacteria. (There's millions of different types) Also the recommendations for starving cyano of light is to cover your tank with a towel or the like to allow no light for a period of time. Not low light. I agree with you that cyano consumes Doc so there's really no argument here, except that you started that cyano doesn't use light or nitrate and phosphate. Witch I still don't agree with. |
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Post by Frank on Apr 16, 2014 12:13:35 GMT -5
Yes 3 stage ro/di got it from bulk reef supply. Reading 0 tds. I am storing in a brute 32. |
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Post by BriMc on Apr 16, 2014 12:17:39 GMT -5
Getting back to the original question Frank asked, that is a tough one to answer. I have set up new fish only tanks with new substrate and both plasticast and plastic artificial coral, I used 0 TDS water, the only thing in the tank after a month was two damsels fed direct so no food was wasted in the tank. I still ended up with cyano before the damsels were added.
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Post by Frank on Apr 16, 2014 12:17:48 GMT -5
I'm guessing that the only thing it could be feeding off would be dead organics from the live rock? This should go away as tank settles in? I'm skimming away so it's definitely pulling something out of the water.
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Post by Pokahpolice on Apr 16, 2014 12:31:39 GMT -5
I'm guessing that the only thing it could be feeding off would be dead organics from the live rock? This should go away as tank settles in? I'm skimming away so it's definitely pulling something out of the water. water changes are your best friend right now. I'd do 20-30% twice this week. |
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Post by Pokahpolice on Apr 16, 2014 13:11:00 GMT -5
Right but this states some forms of cyanobacteria. (There's millions of different types) Also the recommendations for starving cyano of light is to cover your tank with a towel or the like to allow no light for a period of time. Not low light. I agree with you that cyano consumes Doc so there's really no argument here, except that you started that cyano doesn't use light or nitrate and phosphate. Witch I still don't agree with. Just to be clear, I never stated that cyano doesn't 'use' phosphates or nitrates. I stated that phosphates are not the cause of the outbreak, which I stick by. I'm done here friend, we're not going to agree and I feel like if I showed you an article that stated the sun was hot you'd question it, which is fine but I don't really care to argue. |
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Post by speedyron on Apr 16, 2014 18:47:56 GMT -5
id be worried scrubbing the rock and be killing good bacteria perhaps even adding to the decaying matter. id suck it up or blast it off. i wouldnt shut the light either. id try find whats wrong and fix it. something as i said earlier is out of balance and until u discover what it is it will continue.
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Post by Frank on Apr 16, 2014 20:18:23 GMT -5
id be worried scrubbing the rock and be killing good bacteria perhaps even adding to the decaying matter. id suck it up or blast it off. i wouldnt shut the light either. id try find whats wrong and fix it. something as i said earlier is out of balance and until u discover what it is it will continue. What could be "wrong"? It's a new tank with nothing except cuc and I'm not feeding. |
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Post by jess on Apr 17, 2014 3:18:02 GMT -5
Funny enough I don't seem to have any on my sabd which is where everyone contains about it. Should I continue to be aggressive or let things take their course. Right now the only thing in the tank is CUC. Are you sure it's red slime and not diatoms? You have plenty of water movement? I personally wouldn't be to alarmed about it right now. Your tank is still fairly new. Stay up on your water changes, suck up any slime you see, and skim away. If you have no livestock then you shouldn't be feeding and adding excess nutrients. Red slime likes dead spots also so if you notice it in one particular area try changing your flow. Sent from my HTC6525LVW using proboards |
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Post by Frank on Apr 17, 2014 10:06:25 GMT -5
Funny enough I don't seem to have any on my sabd which is where everyone contains about it. Should I continue to be aggressive or let things take their course. Right now the only thing in the tank is CUC. Are you sure it's red slime and not diatoms? You have plenty of water movement? I personally wouldn't be to alarmed about it right now. Your tank is still fairly new. Stay up on your water changes, suck up any slime you see, and skim away. If you have no livestock then you shouldn't be feeding and adding excess nutrients. Red slime likes dead spots also so if you notice it in one particular area try changing your flow. Sent from my HTC6525LVW using proboards The spot it seems to appear first and most prevalent is the top of the upper rocks where ever the light is hitting. I guess I didn't realize that diatoms could be red, so maybe you are right. I can try to get a picture of the rock I didn't scrub. |
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Post by jess on Apr 17, 2014 12:57:55 GMT -5
Well if it's not thick like snot almost, it's likely diatoms or some type of algae from your lights. What kind of lights are you running?
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