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Post by Derekmillett on Feb 25, 2014 17:01:53 GMT -5
So my refugium I built is too big for the stand I have. I've been thinking of building a larger stand but was wondering if this may work instead. I have room for a 10 gallon tank and refugium. Since stand is a little short in cabinet I dont have much room for skimmer. If I need to raise the skimmer to get water height correct it definitely won't work. What I if I bought 2 matching pumps and put one in my refugium pumping water into 10 gal tank w skimmer, then had same gph pump in 10 gal pumping water back into refugium. Any thoughts on how that'd work?
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Post by Matt in Lewiston on Feb 25, 2014 17:20:56 GMT -5
I wouldn't do the 2 pump thing, one will always move slightly more water than the other no matter how identical they were.
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Post by Derekmillett on Feb 25, 2014 17:33:07 GMT -5
Hmmmm.....
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Post by speedyron on Feb 25, 2014 21:28:15 GMT -5
drill holes,one in ten and one in sump at same lvl u need to run skimmer, pump water in ten gallon and then let it run thru pipe back to sump
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Post by jasonandsarah on Feb 26, 2014 5:49:52 GMT -5
Could you post a picture of the stand and sump?
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Post by Derekmillett on Feb 26, 2014 7:21:23 GMT -5
I will try to put one up in a little bit. Drilling a hole and connecting it sounds like it'd work fine, what do you use to drill into glass?
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Post by Tucker on Feb 26, 2014 7:49:05 GMT -5
A glass drill bit. Some hardware stores if not all have them. I agree pictures are necessary but the idea of raising on above the other is sound, the principal of gravity is the same. We also want to make sure you don't lose access to clean either of the tanks.
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Post by Derekmillett on Feb 26, 2014 7:54:20 GMT -5
I'm thinking I'm just going to need to do it and build another stand if I want this 55 refugium to work.....
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Post by Hack157 on Feb 26, 2014 8:05:56 GMT -5
10 gallon tanks are notoriously brittle. The glass thickness is such that they will crack very easily with any vibration or movement. So I would steer clear of joining two 10 gallon tanks by means of drilling them. You can read plenty on that subject on the Internet as I looked into doing exactly that same thing at one time.
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Post by Pokahpolice on Feb 26, 2014 9:18:35 GMT -5
10 gallon tanks are notoriously brittle. The glass thickness is such that they will crack very easily with any vibration or movement. So I would steer clear of joining two 10 gallon tanks by means of drilling them. You can read plenty on that subject on the Internet as I looked into doing exactly that same thing at one time. Not as brittle as everyone makes them out to be. I just drilled two tanks, two holes in each with bulkheads and they did fine. You just have to be conscious to not put sidewards pressure on the walls when connecting the plumbing. If you wanted to connect the two tanks I would just use a flexible tube rather than PVC that way if it gets bumped there is some give to it. I'm not sure how this helps you tho? If the issue is height than how does the skimmer in a tank under the same stand solve the height issue. If the tank was outside of the stand than that makes sense. |
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Post by Hack157 on Feb 26, 2014 9:34:17 GMT -5
"Not as brittle as everyone makes them out to be. I just drilled two tanks, two holes in each with bulkheads and they did fine."
It is not the drilling that is the issue, it is the use over time. Most 10 gallon tanks today have just 1/8" glass. Any vibration can cause spider cracks to form. Unlikely that overflow pipes, a skimmer, and or a return pump would not be causing at least some vibration. I personally like to error on the side of caution when it comes to potentially flooding the house.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Feb 26, 2014 10:29:30 GMT -5
I had a the bottom of a ten gallon fall right out on me with nothing in it but water.
If you want something smaller get someones old acrylic sump or something? Take up a small amount of space and they're pretty strong.
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Post by moulton712 on Feb 26, 2014 13:04:00 GMT -5
Build a larger stand. Or you might be able to use 2 29 gal. Too many answers that will/might work. I don't like my 90 stand. When I go bigger I'm going to build the stand so I get what I want.
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Post by speedyron on Feb 26, 2014 18:27:14 GMT -5
just get a cheap plastic container from dollar store that fit height and size you need, put skimmer in it. drill it and sump and bulkhead. pump it from sump and gravity feed it back to sump like i said my last post. many people with really big tanks just use cheap plastic containers rather then glass tanks for fuge. look at penny's setup at aquacorals.
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