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Post by speedyron on Mar 30, 2014 9:40:15 GMT -5
I do and he bites the tweezers too
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Post by jasonandsarah on Mar 30, 2014 9:58:19 GMT -5
There like guinea pigs.but they don't have wood chips and plastic to chew on
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Post by speedyron on Mar 30, 2014 10:11:40 GMT -5
they are nothing like guinea pigs lol but is a model citizen in the tank
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Post by speedyron on Mar 30, 2014 10:14:15 GMT -5
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Post by speedyron on Mar 30, 2014 11:39:15 GMT -5
In the wild these fish feed primarily on zoo-plankton, consisting mainly of copepods
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Post by jasonandsarah on Mar 31, 2014 6:24:06 GMT -5
And they chew on clam shells for fun...... I was only comparing their teeth. They both have simular needs when it comes time to see the dentist.;D
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Post by jasonandsarah on Mar 31, 2014 6:26:27 GMT -5
Pet co in Augusta has a kole tang. If I remember right these guys stay pretty small and can be in the smallest tank for a tang? 75g I think is the recommended size? Could be way off.
They also had a pom pom crab and a few other cool inverts and stuff.
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Pet co??
Apr 3, 2014 6:53:20 GMT -5
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Post by haleigh on Apr 3, 2014 6:53:20 GMT -5
I think petco In Augusta has two. Or I saw two yesterday. Ones in the frag display tank with the puffer!
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Post by gotareef on Apr 3, 2014 8:06:18 GMT -5
In the wild these fish feed primarily on zoo-plankton, consisting mainly of copepods should have posted the rest of the quote.... for the rest of us here it is (aquariaworld) "There are several references to the “invertebrate compatibility” of this species in the literature. However, this is too broad a term and could lead to confusion. The blue-throated trigger feeds mainly on zooplankton in its natural environment and so arguably has less inclination to do the damage to rockwork, or indeed other aquarium inhabitants, that many other members of the triggerfish family seem to enjoy. Small specimens in a reef situation are unlikely to do any harm to sessile invertebrates, shrimp, urchins or crustaceans. However, large individuals do present a threat to crustaceans and potentially urchins so perhaps the best way to describe their suitability for reef aquaria is “sessile invertebrate compatible” – but keep an eye on those shrimp!" (live aquaria) "A 125 gallon or larger aquarium with rocks and caves provides a good environment. The Blue Throat will rearrange the landscaping and rocks. It is said to "talk," which is actually a grunting sound. The Blue Throat Triggerfish needs a varied diet of meaty foods including; squid, krill, clams, small fish and hard shelled shrimp to help wear down their ever growing teeth." (blue zoo) "Will learn to associate you with feedings and can be trained to eat from your hand. Be careful when working in a tank housing this fish as it may bite your hand. It is safest to feed Triggerfish with feeding tongs as hand feeding will often cause accidental biting. Feed a varied diet of meaty crustacean and fish flesh. Many commercially prepared frozen foods have a meat based trigger formula. To maintain body weight of this fish it is recommended to feed 2 or 3 times a day" I would probably say "coral safe" not "reef safe".... |
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Post by Lance on Apr 3, 2014 8:54:15 GMT -5
What gotareef said. Pretty much all fish from the order Tetraodontiformes (Triggers, Boxfish, Cowfish, Puffers, Filefish) have the tools to do serious damage to other critters. The likelihood varies from species to species but one of the things I've learned about most of these fish is how smart and inquisitive they are. They really like to test and play with things using their mouths...which are extremely powerful. Keep them in a limited box of water long enough and there's a good likelihood they'll test and play with everything at some point. It may take the form of: - an occasional one-off nip of a fin or a crushed shrimp
- a formerly passive fish learns that he can eat your crustaceans or other inverts
- a fish that immediately tries to eat everything in sight
So, my 2 cents is that you're taking a calculated risk with any of these fish in almost any situation. You can get away with more if you are really careful about what you keep and how you introduce critters. Not that I'm against this...breaking "the rules" and getting away with stuff is part of the fun of the hobby. For example for over a year I had the following Angels in a 75: Coral Beauty, Flame, Pygmy, Lemon Peel, and Majestic. Conventional wisdom is that they would probably beat the sh!t out of each other and that at least a few of them would pick on my corals and clams. And this was all true to some degree but it was limited. For quite awhile things were pretty peaceful. Eventually though the Lemon Peel did learn to eat giant clam and he taught a couple of the other angels to do this. They had to go! |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Apr 3, 2014 10:06:22 GMT -5
I had the exact same thing happen to me with an angel fish (Koran)I was told by everyone on this site pretty much that I shouldn't have a Koran in my tank with corals it was only a matter of time before it started liking corals....wouldn't you know, I didn't listen to anyone because it had never done anything bad before and one day I noticed some zoa's missing and the next day some more until it was out of hand and I really couldn't do anything about it!
It took me a little while to find it a home. There's not many locals that have large fowlr tanks! But I finally did because I got lucky and Christian at unity took him in on a trade. He has a 220g fowlr tank that fit the Koran perfectly.
I also tried a Niger trigger and that was also short lived fine at first then he was munching. Once again I got lucky and Jason at easy (where I bought it) took him back in, Even though he knew he'd have a hard time selling him again.
Everyone knows these are beautiful fish but at some point you have to decide if you want a healthy reef tank or a fowlr. Because most of these fish will turn your tank into a fowlr tank weather you like it or not.
My favorite fish in the ocean are angels and triggers! But my favorite thing in the ocean isn't fish it's corals. So I have a coral reef tank with fish I "like" instead of fish I love. Well I do have a flame Angel but still it wouldn't be my first pick for an angel just the most docile imo. He may get outed at some point to though.
I've learned really quickly to listen to people that know more then I do. Opinions aren't always just opinions when they're personal experiences.
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Post by gotareef on Apr 3, 2014 10:16:09 GMT -5
its fish or coral 90% of the time, they dont mix well...
any fish has its drawbacks around coral, dosnt matter if it is "reef safe" or not the question is the fish "your reef safe"
sand sifting goby for example totally reef safe and peaceful unless your a chalice, plate coral... any coral that likes to sit on the sand but hates to be covered in sand.
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