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Post by jess on Feb 2, 2014 21:01:46 GMT -5
So what can be done about members that have had multiple complaints of bad business? I like to give people the benefit of doubt, but as it turns out i should have listened to the rumors i heard about them. I don't think it's right to not say anything and let others get ripped off when it could be prevented. I don't like that they are even part of this forum while doing bad business. Looks bad for the rest of us and I surely hate to see things go the way swam did!
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 2, 2014 21:31:52 GMT -5
I think we're all pretty close and some of us are good friends. If someone ripped you off and you didn't tell me and then I got ripped off by them too I'd be upset I wasn't warned. Bottom line is we should have respect for each other and DO what we SAY we're going to do. If they aren't going to respect you enough to not rip you off, MOST likely we don't want to do business with them either! That's my thought.
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Post by maineultraclassic on Feb 2, 2014 21:35:38 GMT -5
I say put it out for all to see..........avoid anyone else getting screwed over.
Steve
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Post by oceangirl2009 on Feb 2, 2014 21:46:21 GMT -5
Jess, did you tell the seller you were unhappy with something and give them the chance to respond?
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Post by jess on Feb 2, 2014 21:49:01 GMT -5
Oh yes, I've been blocked simply for asking to pick up my coral, then text them, told they were gonna file a police report haha. I got all the convo saved, I was in no way rude or anything at all. I just wanted to finish the deal
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Post by Pokahpolice on Feb 2, 2014 21:50:11 GMT -5
I'm personally part of several forums for a few different hobbies. Part of being part of the community and what keeps people honest is knowing that others will know about bad deals. I also say put it out there.
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Post by jess on Feb 2, 2014 21:54:59 GMT -5
Out of respect for the board admin I will wait. Feel free to pm however.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 2, 2014 22:09:46 GMT -5
I say under normal circumstances that any issues between members selling, buying or trading should be handled outside the forum or inside the forum via private message. If all else fails and no resolution has been reached, if you've got the proof to back up your claims of being ripped off via a saved conversation then by all means post it to initiate means to reach a resolution or at very least to save others from making a similar mistake. If it escalates on here then either The admin or myself can handle it on here. Hopefully all parties in question can be adult about the issue and work to resolve it peacefully and friendly.
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Post by simplymaineseaglas on Feb 2, 2014 22:10:24 GMT -5
Okay Jess, lets put it all out there!
I traded nearly $300 worth of frag for a $100 sump on or around the 14th of December.. When we did this trade Jess B said that she need to leave one of the frags at my place for a few day. I told her that this was fine but it MUST be picked up before December 30th as I was having a total knee replacement on December 31st and would be unable to meet for the follow few weeks..I'd be learning how to walk again. Jess said "that's fine, I'll give you a call in a couple of days and pick it up". Well the 30th came and went, I had my surgery on the 31st. I didn't get an email from Jess until about a week ago. At this point I told her that I'm in PT every day but I will shoot you a PM on facebook at the end of the week and we can work something out to meet up. I ended up in the hospital for a skin infection on my knee that I had surgery on and was away from home for almost three days. At some point while in the hospital, the heater in my frag system crapped out. When I arrived home it looked like my frag tank was filled with milk.... the water was white. I quickly realized that none of the frags in that tank were going to make it. An upsetting moment but these things happen and I should have had a backup heater but didn't. All of a sudden, I got a text from Jess today, I tried to explain to Jess what had happened with my frag tank and let her know I had a small frag of the same coral (acan) in my display tank that I could give her. She then started demanding money in it's place..... may I remind you that no money ever changed hands.... she failed to pick this coral up by the deadline we both agreed to.... and I've offered her a replacement of the same type of coral. I only blocked her from accessing my facebook and told her to stop contacting me after a number of PMs and text messages that contained language that I choose not to repeat! I don't understand all of the drama, I did everything I could to make this frag available to her for two weeks before my surgery. Had she of done what she agreed to, her frag wouldn't have even been in my system when it crashed. I can't be everyone's babysitter and I clearly can't make her happy. I give up, I'm done.... I'm not going to try and work with you any longer Jess!
May I add that Steve you have corals in you tank that came from mine and I have coral in my tank that came from yours. Lindsey, I give you (many for free) the very first frags you put in your tank.... Oceangirl, I believe we've traded as well! All with no issues!
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 2, 2014 23:20:43 GMT -5
Melissa, I wouldn't say it was without issue. Let's be honest
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 2, 2014 23:26:33 GMT -5
And if you're so sick and hard up why are you walking around goodwill just fine? Just sayin... I knew first hand how many times she's attempted to get a hold of but you're always busy or sick or whatever the case. She's been more than fair I think and you also try to fight dirty. We're adults here and if the respect was mutual there would be no issue! You promised something and you didn't follow through. I deal with Jess allll the time as do many others without issue. I think blocking her for trying to reach you is low and immature. I'm not trying to stir the pot but you're painting a pretty picture but you're not saying the whole story.
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Post by simplymaineseaglas on Feb 2, 2014 23:31:42 GMT -5
Lindsey~
The issues you and I had had nothing to do with coral and you know that! Jess is the one that didn't follow through and while I know you two are buddies.... you don't know the whole story! BTW, part of my PT is to get out and walk as much as I can... inside a store or out!
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Post by jess on Feb 2, 2014 23:37:11 GMT -5
I do happen to have the entire conversation saved, the only language and name calling came from you yourself, and i contacted you on Jan 2 to pick it up and again a few days ago and you said you would not be around, yet I see you out walking around shopping, and completely ignore me. You said sometime this week so tonight go to message you and find you have blocked me. Seriously? Because I want to pick up what is owed to me? There's no reason your husband couldn't have brought it to the door so you didn't have to walk. He's done it before. And your tank was just fine the first time I asked about picking it up. I asked for equal compensation of the coral that was lost, you wanted to take less, and then nothing, because you made yourself unavailable meet. How is that fair?
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Post by lindsey1984 on Feb 2, 2014 23:43:01 GMT -5
Yeah Melissa, but you took it here. You also left a fb group because you had issues with someone on there, you snapped at someone on here for using your photo of your frag tank as an example of what he wanted to make and yet 95% of your pictures are from google. I think you're being unfair, and I more you think I know. Jess is my friend and we talk a lot. I've read the messages myself. Screen shots do wonders
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Post by jess on Feb 2, 2014 23:50:54 GMT -5
Lindsey~ The issues you and I had had nothing to do with coral and you know that! Jess is the one that didn't follow through and while I know you two are buddies.... you don't know the whole story! BTW, part of my PT is to get out and walk as much as I can... inside a store or out! If part of you pt was to get out and walk around then why did i have to wait so long get it? I asked you once Jan 2 and was told to wait "several weeks". I don't message you again until the 29th after I've seen you out and about numerous times, and get told you will be unavailable, yet two days later there you are. I stop across the street from your apartment EVERY DAY. It would have taken five seconds at any given time and less effort to hand me the bag then it takes to take out your dog. You didn't hear from me for weeks at your own request, I respected you having surgery and didn't want to bother you. Of course I didn't realize it would be at the expense of my coral. At this point I could care less about the acan, it's more about the moral. Sent from my HTC ONE |
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