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Post by scoobnoob on Oct 4, 2012 21:09:54 GMT -5
Really??? So many stories online of clownfish going extinct due to global warming, increased acidity in the ocean and OVERCOLLECTING??? us.m.yahoo.com/w/legobpengine/lifestyles/blogs/pets/finding-nemo-just-got-harder-global-warming-could-172500486.html?.b=index&.ts=1349157655&.intl=US&.lang=en&.ysid=OEKaQnU_HR9iUeGJ4SG_XZD9This is the most widely captive bred fish in the hobby. Adding it to the endangered species act would then not allow breeders to sell them if breeders don't sell them they won't breed them. This is plain ridiculous. Reef ecosystems are on the decline I make a great effort to buy as much captive bred/aquacultured coral as possible, some species may only be alive in our tanks in the future, but if that's the case it's not over collecting that did the reefs in so much as changes in the environment. If people want to save reefs they should also consider the benefits hobbiest as ourselves provide via aquaculture. </rant>
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Post by gotareef on Oct 5, 2012 6:59:34 GMT -5
lol this is a joke they really want to make clowns illegal to own this is some uneducated fool who is trying to get his name in the books. it will never go threw
if you read the article there are no numbers to back his claims......... this will go no-where
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Post by jstearn on Oct 7, 2012 19:05:52 GMT -5
Well really we shouldn't be collecting anything from the ocean anymore. I know there's some stuff that can't be breed but for the most we should be 100% dependent on breeders. I'm also new to this hobby but I thought that that's where I got my corals and fish from.
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Post by scoobnoob on Oct 7, 2012 20:46:16 GMT -5
@ Jstearn it's pretty easy to get almost exclusive captive propagated coral especially from members on a forum like this as we all need a place to trade our frags when corals grow out. It's different when you go to pet stores. Depending on the store a lot of it will not be propagated and it's worth asking. As far as fish clowns are the most common bred species there has been success with cardinals, different gobies, and now even mandarins but most still do come from the ocean again this is worth the research as well. Many desirable fish are not bred in captivity on a large enough scale or at all mostly tangs, and angelfish. If you shopping at petco c/b on the information/name/price tag means captive bred if it's just sw it's saltwater and was wild collected. Most stores will also tell you if you ask for only captive bred fish. Wrasses are another popular fish that's mostly wild collect. I don't feel bad about buying a wild collected if captive bred is not available but I limit myself to no more than 2 wild caught fish a year and do everything in my power to ensure their survival. I have a wild blenny going on 3 years and a 6-line going on 1. As far as shrimp captive bred peppermints are becoming more common, but I have yet to encounter cleaners that are captive bred.
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Post by jstearn on Oct 7, 2012 21:30:53 GMT -5
Well that makes me feel better on my side. Most of my fish I bought from other people that where tearing down tanks. Almost all my corals came from friends and people online. I did this not for the fact of breeding but for the fact I pay a lot less. I'm sure my clam wasn't breed.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Oct 7, 2012 22:16:01 GMT -5
Actually chances are very high that your clam was aquacultured. ORA aquacultures tons of corcea, maxima, squamosa and derasa clams and so do many other places.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Oct 14, 2012 10:42:37 GMT -5
So here is an article I just read that has a bit more detail about the possibilities of some of our favorite reef fish being put under the endangered species act. My bet is that at best, collection of wild specimens will be halted at some point in the near future. We could all expect that fish prices will rise considerably if this happens. The good thing is it would put increased pressure on ornamental aquaculture and mariculture facilities across the globe to meet demand and start researching new innovative ways to sustainably breed and grow more species of fish, inverts and corals. www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/protection-sought-for-clownfish-that-inspired-finding-nemo
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Oct 14, 2012 13:48:22 GMT -5
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