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Post by Immortality on Oct 29, 2014 19:06:33 GMT -5
So I'm buying another tank that has been set up for a while. It has an algae problem. So my question is what is going to be my best bet tearing it down and setting it up? Is their things that I can do to help rid the tank of this during tear down, or during set up? Should I go ahead and order a clean up crew for this tank? THis will be my first algae dealings. Thank you in advance.
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Post by BriMc on Oct 29, 2014 22:20:13 GMT -5
This is a pretty broad question, what type of algae? Hair, Bryopsis? What is the source of the algae or what do you think could be the source of the Algae?
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Post by Immortality on Oct 31, 2014 0:24:23 GMT -5
Not really sure what's causing the algae, going to pick up the tank this weekend. then owner said he just hasnt had the time to deal with it. I dont know if its placement or lack of flow, I do know he has fish living in the tank that seem unharmed from what he can tell. The pic I have shows hairy, and it being on the rock and sand. I'll see if I can up load a pic or two...... this is all I know for now. Just wondering if when I go to tear down if their is anything I can do to help myself out? Also I'm a little worried because. I dont know what those fish are and I have four fish already. I"m worried I'm going to have war, and or lose some and I really dont want to lose any. Its not their fault they have to move, what can I do to lessen battles, and what should I be watch for, from the looks Ill be adding 7-8 fish in a day, not really digging it. this tank is only 75gal. thank you for checking out my post.
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Post by maineultraclassic on Oct 31, 2014 5:14:35 GMT -5
Looks like a Blue Damsel, Green Chromis, and a Sailfin Tang from the pictures in that 72gal bowfront.
If you take out each piece of rock and scrub them with a brush, rinse them in tank water, then scrub again..........you should be able to get the algae off.
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Post by foggman on Oct 31, 2014 6:55:41 GMT -5
I agree on the tang and damsel but the other kind of looks like a bird wrasse by the shape, could be wrong. The alge is probably caused by poor water and light quality, should be able to remove it like Classic said.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Oct 31, 2014 7:46:36 GMT -5
Like said above, no doubt in my mind the algae is probably caused by poor water quality. High nitrates, high phosphates combind with poor lighting and possibly poor flow. If I were buying that tank, I'd take every single piece of rock and scrape it as best as possible. Then Depending on how difficult the algae is to remove Id wire wheel all of it with a Dremel to get out any root structures left by the algae to keep it from growing back. Rinse the rock, put in clean low nutrient salt water without a light and leave it for a bit. That's what I'd do at least.
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Post by Immortality on Oct 31, 2014 10:30:34 GMT -5
Like said above, no doubt in my mind the algae is probably caused by poor water quality. High nitrates, high phosphates combind with poor lighting and possibly poor flow. If I were buying that tank, I'd take every single piece of rock and scrape it as best as possible. Then Depending on how difficult the algae is to remove Id wire wheel all of it with a Dremel to get out any root structures left by the algae to keep it from growing back. Rinse the rock, put in clean low nutrient salt water without a light and leave it for a bit. That's what I'd do at least. Alright, I'll most likely put it in a tote putting a power head in it probably is a good idea ? I'm thinking yes, but this means I'll be buying another power head.? really thankful for everyones help. couldnt do it with out the ones that have been there done that, know it understand it. Thank you
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Post by BriMc on Oct 31, 2014 11:11:54 GMT -5
First thing I would consider is do you really want to go through starting a tank up and right off the bat be fighting hair algae? This rock may be a candidate for a dark soak and a cooking. Second thing I would stress is ask the previous owners about where the rock came from and any medications or chemicals that may have beef used in the tank.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Oct 31, 2014 12:35:08 GMT -5
Yes, always ask what if any chemicals have ever been used in the tank before you buy it. Many medications have copper in them which can absorb into the sand and rocks and leach out over time. Copper is deadly to corals and inverts.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Oct 31, 2014 13:00:39 GMT -5
Is that the bow front that's been on Craigslist forever? I personally think this rock needs a complete start over. Acid wash, couple good rinsings and start the cycle over again. This rock most likely is going to leach phosphates forever(almost) and give you a ton of unwanted trouble if you don't. Stripping off the top layer with an acid bath would help considerably. If the deal seems to good to be true normally there's a reason for it. Here's a video on it but I strongly caution you that this is really dangerous if you don't take the proper precautions and do the proper research.
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Post by Immortality on Nov 2, 2014 12:02:33 GMT -5
I have my own live rock. To take care of the problem all together couldnt I just use. My own live rock? Mean while do whatsoever on the bad live rock? I decided to get the tank because it would save me money.
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Post by BriMc on Nov 2, 2014 13:39:29 GMT -5
There is a saying that applies here "start with good, maintain good, and end up with good". Getting things cheap depending on the item ( but live rock does apply here ) can end up costing you a lot in the long run. But yes using your own live rock would be an alternative as long as it is known good rock.
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Post by Immortality on Nov 2, 2014 14:08:55 GMT -5
Thank u. I do totally understand what Ur saying; . Just figured what's missing for that tank I have and what I don't have that tank does.
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Post by Immortality on Nov 3, 2014 23:32:39 GMT -5
What about live sand is the stand in that tank any good
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Post by jasonandsarah on Nov 4, 2014 6:14:03 GMT -5
Rinse it and rinse it and then rinse it some more...... Your better off starting from scratch, rather then starting out with problems. Even if you thought there was nothing bad in the sand bed, there'd still be tons of die off just from moving the sand and it getting stirred up. I think there's probably a ton of trapped crap in that sands bed though. You can get a 20lb bag for 23$ not that bad. Then just add the rinsed sand with it. Preferably underneath the live stuff. Don't get oolite I learned the hard way. www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=16764Sent from my SM-N910R4 using proboards
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