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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 15:02:43 GMT -5
does anyone know what the best deal is out there on one. Features Id like are ph, temp, tds, alk, lights, and be able go on my smart phone and check these parameters or to email me if something is outta whack. I know nothing about these things but jason said pretty easy to use. I was wondering if I should get in pieces or if they have a pkg deal or wut but figure most u people on here seem to be pretty good at knowing what good prices are and where to get the best deals. I have looked around and looks like about $525.00 for what I want does that sound right. but even then Im not sure it does everything I want
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Post by BriMc on Jun 8, 2014 15:32:50 GMT -5
I don't see a way to do the tds as no company offers a module or probe to do the TDS. The best thing to do is get blue plastic food grade barrels with lids and make a cheap water change station. Use two different barrels one for plain RO water and one for Pre mixed water.
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Post by maineultraclassic on Jun 8, 2014 16:02:55 GMT -5
I don't think any of them offer an ALK monitor either.
Most of them offer PH, TEMP, SALINITY, and ORP......the others take regents to measure.
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 16:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 16:24:43 GMT -5
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 17:56:31 GMT -5
this taken from Page 34 apex manual
AquaController Apex CONDUCTIVITY RANGE
The PM2 supports 4 conductivity ranges to support the conductivity measurement
of various solutions. The four ranges are described in Table 2 - Conductivity
Range Options
Description
Range Low Units 0 to 850 S/cm Calibration Solution 447 S/cm
Typically used to measure the purity of RO/DI water.
Range Medium Units 0.00 to 8.50 mS/cm Calibration Solution
Typically used to measure the conductivity of a fresh water tank.
Range High Units 0 to 85.0 mS/cm Calibration Solution 53.0 mS/cm
Typically used to measure the conductivity of a salt water aquarium.
Raqnge Salinity Units 0 to 45.0 PPT Calibration Solution 53.0 mS/cm
Typically used to measure the salinity of a saltwater aquarium.
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 17:58:19 GMT -5
So Im guessing the first range Low would be used to monitor your rodi
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 8, 2014 18:27:20 GMT -5
You'd probably get the best help to sign up for a Neptune apex forum acct. There are people on there that know EVERYTHING! LOL literally everything.
But really they can be very helpful and tell you everything a apex is capable of.
There's a thread on there where they tell you how to run half your house off an apex. Crazy but you have to have the full apex you can't do it with the Jr like I have.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 8, 2014 18:29:45 GMT -5
does anyone know what the best deal is out there on one. Features Id like are ph, temp, tds, alk, lights, and be able go on my smart phone and check these parameters or to email me if something is outta whack. I know nothing about these things but jason said pretty easy to use. I was wondering if I should get in pieces or if they have a pkg deal or wut but figure most u people on here seem to be pretty good at knowing what good prices are and where to get the best deals. I have looked around and looks like about $525.00 for what I want does that sound right. but even then Im not sure it does everything I want If you want to do everything you'd have to get the apex gold package. That runs about $799 but comes with almost everything. They're the same price no matter where you buy them. They done really go on sale. If contact Greg from cultivated reef if I was you he will be one of your best shots at getting a discount of any kind. That's where I buy all my apex stuff from and I shopped around every where. |
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Post by doverdoug on Jun 8, 2014 18:44:34 GMT -5
Apex has a "gold" kit its mostly lab grade and is about 7-8 hundred bucks with just probes I dont think it has the wet floor alarm or expansion modules.
Is anyone doing the live stream through apex yet?
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 8, 2014 18:52:04 GMT -5
I'll be doing the live stream as soon as my web cam comes in!  |
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Post by BriMc on Jun 8, 2014 19:33:58 GMT -5
So Im guessing the first range Low would be used to monitor your rodi After researching this for the past minutes you are absolutely correct you can use your apex with the PM2 module and a continuity probe. The part that is unclear is, on my controller there are two probes available, a low density and a high density probe. I currently use the high density probe which is designed for salt and brackish water. The manual states for fresh water use the low density probe and change the program selection in the controller menu. So does the Neptune use two different style probes also? See you learn something new in this hobby everyday!!!!!!!! |
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 8, 2014 19:49:31 GMT -5
I think the apex uses just one probe but rather it's the different calibration solution that changes it? I could be wrong though I don't have a pm2 only pm1
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 8, 2014 19:54:33 GMT -5
CONDUCTIVITY PROBE SETUP
To enable the Conductivity probe:
Apex Display: Setup – Cond Setup – Cond Enable – If you have more than one Conductivity port on your system, use the up/down arrow keys to choose the port you wish to configure, press Select, then use the up/down arrow keys to select on/off for that port, press OK when done or Exit to discard changes.
Web Interface: This option is not available from the Web Interface.
CONDUCTIVITY RANGE
The PM2 supports 4 conductivity ranges to support the conductivity measurement of various solutions. The four ranges are described in Table 1 - Conductivity Range Options.
NOTE: When the conductivity range is in salinity mode, the probe is still actually reading the conductivity of the water. Since the ratio of ions in salt water is very well defined, there is a direct correlation between the conductivity of the water and the salinity of the tank.
NOTE: If the conductivity range is changed, don’t forget to update outlet programs that are based on the conductivity reading as the values will change with the change in range.
Range Units Calibration Solution Description Low 0 to 850 S/cm 447 S/cm Typically used to measure the purity of RO/DI water. Medium 0.00 to 8.50 mS/cm Typically used to measure the conductivity of a fresh water tank. High 0 to 85.0 mS/cm 53.0 mS/cm Typically used to measure the conductivity of a salt water aquarium. Salinity 0 to 45.0 PPT 53.0 mS/cm Typically used to measure the salinity of a saltwater aquarium.
To select the Conductivity range:
Table 1 - Conductivity Range Options
Apex Display: Setup – Cond Setup – Cond Range – If you have more than one Conductivity port on your system, use the up/down arrow keys to choose the port you wish to configure, press Select, then use the up/down arrow keys to select the range for that port, press OK when done or Exit to discard changes.
Web Interface: This option is not available from the Web Interface.
TEMPERATURE COMPENSATION
Conductivity measurements are temperature dependent. The degree to which temperature affects conductivity varies from solution to solution. Seawater typically has a temperature correction factor of 2.1 to 2.3 %/C. In order for the PM2 to automatically compensate for changes in conductivity as the temperature of the water changes, you must connect a temperature probe to the PM2 and set the temperature
AquaController Apex Probe Module 2 -
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Post by BriMc on Jun 9, 2014 10:02:26 GMT -5
Yes but that does not tell you if you need a different probe. There are probes made specifically for high and low conductivity.
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