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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 7:08:25 GMT -5
two angelfish dead. emperor and blueface. Looks like water contaminated with chlorine and what else. Going to have to rethink ato. the ro unit must have stoped working. tds is at 128 going into ato. been probably 2 weeks since i checked tds always been good. will an apex controller check tds and warn u if gets too high. I dont know what im going to do got to check around see if i can find an ro cartidge or unit locally. Should i do big water changes. is gonna make my tanks cycle they are both on the ro ato. one is a 55g and one is a 120g thats alot water to make up. and should let water circulate for 24hrs. ive shut ato off and gonna see if i can get top off water from dougs ro unit.
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Jun 8, 2014 7:23:48 GMT -5
Wow, shitty way to start the day, sorry to hear. Get some good quality carbon like seachem matrix and poly filters to start. Are you positive it's chlorine contaminated? It's possible that if theres chlorine in your tap water that it could ruin your RO membrane if it's in high enough concentrations. They make RO carbon cartridges just for removing chorine before it gets to the membrane. Are you flushing your RO membrane often? My Tds creeps up to over 100tds in a few days if I don't flush it often. Hopefully everything works out.
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 7:56:44 GMT -5
thanks ill grab some carbon. I dont know if it is chlorine or what i have nothing to test for chlorine. I just woke up and two fish are dead so i test for ammonia and is not that then went get the other big test kit and on the way hit the tds and it says 128 so i assume needs fushing i did that and still says 128 so again I assume ro is not working and cartridges need replacing cuz its probably broke or no good. sux cuz i have a whole brute trash can of mixed saltwater thats fed off same ro and will be contaminated also
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 8:06:40 GMT -5
some of my leathers dont look so well but everthing else looks ok so far ten other fish and corals just hoping doesnt kill bacteria and start a cycle
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 8, 2014 8:10:39 GMT -5
Add some water conditioner! It should remove most of the heavy metals that got into it. It's not ideal but in a pinch it does help. Do you have any Seachems prime? One of the best and you can add it right to the tank to try to help with the water that's already gone into the tank.
Also like Ryan said run some carbon, what the closest Lfs to you? I'd run some Rox carbon if you can get your hands on it locally? It removes stuff much quicker then most any carbon. I have some?I have prime as well but I'm not that close to you I don't think?
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Jun 8, 2014 8:13:34 GMT -5
Is it an rodi or just a standard RO unit? 128 Tds is bad but it's not the end of the world. Mine creeps up to that over a few days and takes a few minutes for the Tds to come back down to around 10 Tds out of my membrane each time I flush it. It takes at least a minute or two of flushing it seems to get the Tds back down. Obviously something sounds wrong with your RO unit but I would also look to external sources of contamination like anything household. Any residues left on your hands if you've been in the tank, any spray type chemicals being used in your home? So many possibilities. How's everything else in your tank doing? Rox is definitely a better carbon if you can get your hands on it locally.
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Post by jasonandsarah on Jun 8, 2014 8:14:12 GMT -5
Cultivated reef stocks Rox carbon I believe? Maybe some cuprisorb as well? Also made by Seachems and is good for removing heavy metals.
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Post by BriMc on Jun 8, 2014 10:20:16 GMT -5
They make a dual TDS meter that connects to the input and output of your ro unit so you can continuously monitor your ro readings. Bulk reef supply carries them.
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Post by BriMc on Jun 8, 2014 10:30:20 GMT -5
I have to agree with Ryan a TDS of 128 is not a killer. My daughter dumped a cup of milk into my tank a few months ago and with a massive water change and running carbon and poly filters I did not lose anything. Something had to have gotten into your tank.
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Post by foggman on Jun 8, 2014 10:36:30 GMT -5
Here is another thought, what's your tank temp at, it was a hot day yesterday, I looked at my temp and it was 82 in my tank, I keep frozen water bottles in the freezer just incase,
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 11:56:23 GMT -5
I'm not saying that 128 TDS did it but I'm saying is that's an indicator that rodi is not working. I'm thinking chlorine got in there and i have air conditioning on thermostat set at 70 degrees
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 13:53:09 GMT -5
ok well i know ro unit is not functioning so i got new membrane for that i got change out. no one had rox activated carbon so i got bio chem Zorb and seachem purigen to absorb what ever is in the tanks. I have put the bags in and now got to change out ro cartridge and flush and test tds again
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 15:28:01 GMT -5
changed out membraine in ro unit and individually reversed flushed out other three units on the rodi. then ran it about 45 mins and tds is back to 000. I hope that will take care of problems. over $220.00 lost in fish and $50.00 in chemical absorption bags, $50.00 new membrane well that dont count cuz i needed that anyway but thats $270.00 could have gone towards a controller
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Post by maineultraclassic on Jun 8, 2014 15:53:50 GMT -5
TDS definitely will not kill fish, chlorine will for sure.....but it's weird that only 2 fish died and not all of them.
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Post by speedyron on Jun 8, 2014 16:35:42 GMT -5
there are two tanks and looks like the count is up to 3 fish from that tank. there are 4 more fish in that tank but i think they are hardier fish then those small angels and not sure of the third dottyback havent seen him
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