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Post by scoobnoob on Apr 12, 2014 6:12:05 GMT -5
My floor is a PITA. It rises and sinks randomly. The stand is metal and has adjustable feet. No matter what if I make something level via adjustment something else goes out of wack. There is roughly .25" difference from front to back with the back being shorter. Using the feet also made everything unstable and easily shakeable.I tried putting 2x4s under it and shimming only to have the same results. Taking the feet off to give more contact plus shimming same thing. I currently have a 3/4" sheet of wood underneath the stand with no feet this is by far the most stable but its still not level. Ideas/suggestions. I'm ready to rip the floor out and set it on the concrete...not a very popular idea with my wife. Thanks
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Post by foggman on Apr 12, 2014 6:42:51 GMT -5
May not look great but but depending on how you do it you could make a box the size of your stand and use self leveling cement to get you a level base, just a thought
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Post by maineultraclassic on Apr 12, 2014 6:54:07 GMT -5
So it's cement under the wood?
Just cut holes for the legs to make it to the concrete, and leave the wood under the tank. That way your legs are hitting the solid concrete, and you can level the tank.
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Post by speedyron on Apr 12, 2014 7:13:50 GMT -5
1/4 inch = .250 and that is not very uncommon for a floor in an old home. they tend to sag in the middle of the room, leaving the edges next to the wall higher then the front of your tank. if your house has a cellar, I would try to jack it up a bit first under the tank and support it. that will take a lot of the bounce out as you walk across your floor. then start the shimming process using a 1/4" piece of wood you say its off. Your stand may also be too cheesy to hold a heavy tank. I have seen a lot of stands for sale that I would not trust holding that much weight. figure approx. 8lbs per gallon. I my self would build one and wait to put the trim around the bottom till its level. I bet if your floor has sagged that much that it is also bouncy when you walk across it. It may not be that noticeable till you have a big glass tank of water sitting on it and then watch the waves. suring up the floor underneath with a carrier and a couple posts b4 you try level should tremendously because leveling is not a hard thing to do
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Apr 12, 2014 8:57:40 GMT -5
I bought a cheap adjustable support column to use for supporting my floor and cedar shingles to shim the low spots. Works great.
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Post by scoobnoob on Apr 12, 2014 9:30:07 GMT -5
Its actually lower toward the walls with a hump in the middle. I used a 3/4" board under the left side and adjustable legs the stand came with on the right. My original post was incorrect it was a full 1/2" off. I have it within 1/16th now and I'm content with that. The only problem is my entire setup is going against this wall so now I need to level 2 sumps and a frag tank. I like the idea of cutting holes in the floor and using the basement floor. I still have time. We'll see what happens.
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Post by gotareef on Apr 12, 2014 9:39:50 GMT -5
if the foundation on that wall is moving that much I wouldnt put the setup there. you will have to re level the whole setup 3-4 times a year
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Post by jasonandsarah on Apr 12, 2014 16:39:52 GMT -5
I bought a cheap adjustable support column to use for supporting my floor and cedar shingles to shim the low spots. Works great. I would do this if you can. It's your best option if this is where you want to put your tank. |
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Post by gotareef on Apr 13, 2014 6:33:35 GMT -5
I bought a cheap adjustable support column to use for supporting my floor and cedar shingles to shim the low spots. Works great. this will work unless you have an old house with a crappy foundation. my parents house was like this. the house moves with the seasons. if you support the floor in a spot and the wall drops or raises it is out again. this is the reason you need to re shim it all the time. its the house moving not just the floor sagging |
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Post by gotareef on Apr 13, 2014 6:35:01 GMT -5
you could use a few lally columns and support the whole floor but when we did this the house separated from the foundation
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Post by speedyron on Apr 13, 2014 9:01:57 GMT -5
keep the tanks get a new house
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Post by scoobnoob on Apr 13, 2014 9:12:18 GMT -5
The room is in the basement its a finished room. The floor is supported by wood beams that touch the cement below.
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Post by speedyron on Apr 13, 2014 9:49:56 GMT -5
in the basement u wouldnt think the frost would heave it. does it move and change over the season or is it always the same yearound
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Post by scoobnoob on Apr 13, 2014 12:47:44 GMT -5
Pretty much stays the same been trying to figure it out for about a year as I got equipment together.
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Post by gotareef on Apr 13, 2014 14:40:04 GMT -5
in the basement u wouldnt think the frost would heave it. does it move and change over the season or is it always the same yearound basements are below the frost line they cant heave |
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