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Post by Derekmillett on Mar 26, 2014 8:41:07 GMT -5
So I just filled my 210 w tap water to make sure eeverything would work right. The return pump is too strong for my overflow. It will overflow my tank. Should I just put a ball valve in line from pump to tank? Any other ideas?
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Post by Tucker on Mar 26, 2014 8:46:16 GMT -5
dump it back into your sump. Safer to do it that way as it always has a place to go.
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Post by bryan on Mar 26, 2014 9:03:32 GMT -5
Does the pump have a dial on it to cut back the flow?
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Post by Derekmillett on Mar 26, 2014 9:03:50 GMT -5
So should I put a y ball valve on?
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Post by BriMc on Mar 26, 2014 9:09:01 GMT -5
I usually only use one line for a return to the tank and use a ball valve to govern the amount of water into the tank, also pumps should never be run wide open and should have some back pressure on them. I do like Tuckers idea of dumping it back to your sump depending on your flow rate of the sump and what you are doing with the sump. Maybe a setup with a line running to the tank and a branch off that are both controlled with ball valves.
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Post by scoobnoob on Mar 26, 2014 9:10:15 GMT -5
It depends how much back pressure the valve will add and how much you need to dial it down how big is the pump?
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Mar 26, 2014 9:34:40 GMT -5
I usually only use one line for a return to the tank and use a ball valve to govern the amount of water into the tank, also pumps should never be run wide open and should have some back pressure on them. I do like Tuckers idea of dumping it back to your sump depending on your flow rate of the sump and what you are doing with the sump. Maybe a setup with a line running to the tank and a branch off that are both controlled with ball valves. Where did you learn that pumps should never be run wide open? Every bit of info I've ever been told or read goes against what your suggesting. It's pretty much common knowledge that when you start restricting the flow on these types of water pumps that they can generate stray voltage and excess heat. Both of which are bad things to have in a reef tank. Derek, if your main pump has a larger GPH capacity than your overflow can handle then I would suggest putting a tee fitting at the output side of your pump with ball valves at each output. One line then goes to your display tank and the second auxiliary line returns back to your sump and acts as a pressure bypass. This way you can still have your pump run wide open and still control the amount of flow to your display tank. The added flow through your sump is beneficial as well for suspending sediment for the protein skimmer to remove.
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Post by gotareef on Mar 26, 2014 9:42:09 GMT -5
+1 never restrict the pump. the pump gets enough restriction from the head pressure
can you just add another overflow box?
also how big is your skimmer? you should match return flow to skimmer flow so your skimmer can do its job....
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Post by moulton712 on Mar 26, 2014 9:49:24 GMT -5
I'd add another overflow box. I like lots of flow through the sump. I've had way better luck long run this way.
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Post by Derekmillett on Mar 26, 2014 9:51:52 GMT -5
I could add another overflow box I suppose....I got the eshopps pf 1800. My pump is 1300 gph at 6'. My skimmer is the asm g3 w 500 gph pump. Idk how skimmer would have anything to do with this problem though?
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Post by jasonandsarah on Mar 26, 2014 9:53:29 GMT -5
So what about when your running a reactor? You kind of have to dial back the flow. If your running gfo you definitely have to dial back flow. Is this not an issue because the pump is smaller?
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Post by gotareef on Mar 26, 2014 9:53:31 GMT -5
with high flow in the display tank and low flow in the sump anything the skimmer dosnt have a chance to take out will settle in one of the sump chambers, then you can suck it out instead of it just returning to the display tank
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Post by Derekmillett on Mar 26, 2014 9:54:28 GMT -5
I guess I will get another overflow asap. I need to get this tank full of water though. I have too much rock in my 55 and it looks awful! I guess my plan is to get a tee w ball valve for now. Then in the next month get another overflow get rid of tee!
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Post by Lance on Mar 26, 2014 9:55:29 GMT -5
What about using that extra flow to make a closed loop in the tank for free circulation? Or, you could drive canisters off of it (Carbon, GFO, Bio Pellets) like I do.
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Post by gotareef on Mar 26, 2014 10:05:19 GMT -5
I could add another overflow box I suppose....I got the eshopps pf 1800. My pump is 1300 gph at 6'. My skimmer is the asm g3 w 500 gph pump. Idk how skimmer would have anything to do with this problem though? the pf 1800 is supposed to handle 1600gph so not sure why it cant handle 1300gph? I mentioned the skimmer because it is recommended to match your return flow to the skimmer flow
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