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Post by reefking on Feb 2, 2014 10:56:34 GMT -5
I'm looking for a mag 9.5 return pump I have one but whoever had it previous didn't take care of it and even though It works its all rusty and in bad shape. I have an 1800 thats in great shape was new last year that I could trade straight up for it if anyone has one
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Post by foggman on Feb 2, 2014 12:54:24 GMT -5
Ask Jason at easy, he might be able to do something for you if no one else has anything
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Post by reefking on Feb 2, 2014 15:47:34 GMT -5
He's not doing used equipment anymore
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 2, 2014 17:18:08 GMT -5
Why not use the mag 18 and put a ball valve and a bypass on it to divert some flow back to your sump. It would help keep your sump clean of detritus as well.
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Post by gotareef on Feb 2, 2014 17:54:22 GMT -5
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Post by reefking on Feb 2, 2014 21:19:56 GMT -5
Why not use the mag 18 and put a ball valve and a bypass on it to divert some flow back to your sump. It would help keep your sump clean of detritus as well. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell I'm gonna have it all plumbed I've never done it before first sump ever and I'm redoing the one I got. I know I would put the ball valve after the return but what do you mean by a bypass could you give me a photo example??
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Post by foggman on Feb 2, 2014 21:27:12 GMT -5
Something like this
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 2, 2014 22:52:48 GMT -5
Something like this That's exactly what I mean by a bypass
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Post by reefking on Feb 2, 2014 22:57:47 GMT -5
So basically putting a T in after the return to push the water to not only the aquarium but somewhere else in the sump?
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 2, 2014 23:03:15 GMT -5
Exactly, it let's you release the extra water pressure from a larger pump directly back to the sump instead of overwhelming your tank overflow system. Just make sure you are able to regulate the flow through the bypass via a ball valve.
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Post by reefking on Feb 2, 2014 23:34:11 GMT -5
So should i still be able to use 1.25'' PVC or do I need to go bigger?? Also when plumbing the drains can I join them or do they both have to separately go down into the sump? This is the design I think I want to go with it doesn't look too technical and I think it would work for my setup what do you think?
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 2, 2014 23:49:42 GMT -5
That's the basic setup but 1.25 PVC is way too big. The mag 18 only needs 3/4 PVC all the way to achieve the head pressure you need. What size tank do you have again? Your better off joining both drain pipes for the overflows together into one larger pipe. The more pipes you have going to your sump the more cluttered it will be. Both my eshopps 1000 overflows have two 1inch bulkheads each, so I have a total of 4- 1 inch bulkheads total plumbed into a 2 inch drain pipe to my sump and it handles all the flow from a water blaster 10,000 model pump that's pushing 2,600gph in my 75 gallon.
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Post by Matt in Lewiston on Feb 3, 2014 0:01:37 GMT -5
+1 to Ryan's last post.
I have 3 overflows, and each one goes to the sump. It's cluttered, I wish I had plumbed them into a single, larger pipe.
Also, I love the idea of diverting the excess from the pump back into the sump, I currently just valve back the main flow as needed, and putting it back in the sump would have several benefits. It's probably easier on the pump that way also.
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Post by reefking on Feb 3, 2014 0:45:03 GMT -5
+1 to Ryan's last post. I have 3 overflows, and each one goes to the sump. It's cluttered, I wish I had plumbed them into a single, larger pipe. Also, I love the idea of diverting the excess from the pump back into the sump, I currently just valve back the main flow as needed, and putting it back in the sump would have several benefits. It's probably easier on the pump that way also. It's a 90 gallon with 55 gallon sump. So so I need to make them 3/4 from the overflows and once they join adapt to 1 inch or something down to the sump? My other question is can it just flow right through the bulkhead which mine are drilled through the back of my glass or do I need piping right there In the overflow box?
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Post by ryansweatt2004 on Feb 3, 2014 0:50:54 GMT -5
Your pump pressure line to the top of your tank only needs to be 3/4 PVC for a mag 18. You can make your over flow tubing any size you want as long as it handles the entire flow of your pump. Most standard overflows are done with 1 inch bulkheads so you at least need to start with that and go up from there to accommodate multiple overflows into one pipe to drain back to your sump.
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